Towered
Superstar
I’m starting to feel like somebody somewhere has a voodoo doll of this line…
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thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
Well yeah, it sure is feeling quite cursed...
txlseries4
Active Member
I find it hard to blame people from crossing midblock -- especially here where for several years it's been a safe place to cross because there weren't any trains running -- when the legal options are 5+ minutes out of the way. Detours with similar time delays are rare for drivers, but common place for pedestrians, and then people shake their heads about what the person was thinking.
txlseries4
Active Member
Doug Ford conspiring for the city to take the blame for the Crosstown LRT so he can intervene and finally become Mayor:
thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
You have a good point. This incident definitely will challenge people's inherent anti pedestrian bias...
Undead
Senior Member
It's true that we often apply the principles of vision zero incorrectly. For example, too often the City lowers speed limits without changing the physical design of a road.
However, it's neither the time nor place to litigate that in this thread after this tragedy.
However, it's neither the time nor place to litigate that in this thread after this tragedy.
Steve X
Senior Member
I already feel like there’s too many lights in the area. I believe they should just elevate that part of the line between Victoria Park and Warden which would have save all the headaches.
This city, unlike Europe wants a traffic light for all crossings. They can’t simply install a crossing with a sign telling one to look. If there were to be crossings every 50m, there would be a traffic light every 50m to improve accessibility.
Northern Light
Superstar
Can we open the line first before reconstructing it? LOL
For the record, I would have preferred it to be entirely grade separated........but that ship has sailed.
ZEBuilder
Active Member
For those of you worried about slow zones being implemented it is very unlikely to happen. In KW there have been pedestrians hit, there have been cyclists hit, there have been countless close calls and there have been fatalities associated with the LRTs operation but that has not changed the operation of the LRT in any way.
There are additional safety measures being implemented in places where there is significant platform volumes (University of Waterloo) but beyond that there is nothing that has changed in relation to the built infrastructure even considering the locations where these kinds of incidents have occurred. In one instance a student from a high school walked across the tracks where they shouldn't and got hit. For a couple of days it was in the news and everyone was going on about how they should put barriers in, make it more safe etc. Nothing ended up happening with that because at the end of the day there are crossings close by, this case it is certainly similar.
When it comes to crossing arms and bells much of KWs route does not have them. The locations that do are in the train spurs but everywhere that it is street running there are no gates and looks just like Eglinton.
There are additional safety measures being implemented in places where there is significant platform volumes (University of Waterloo) but beyond that there is nothing that has changed in relation to the built infrastructure even considering the locations where these kinds of incidents have occurred. In one instance a student from a high school walked across the tracks where they shouldn't and got hit. For a couple of days it was in the news and everyone was going on about how they should put barriers in, make it more safe etc. Nothing ended up happening with that because at the end of the day there are crossings close by, this case it is certainly similar.
When it comes to crossing arms and bells much of KWs route does not have them. The locations that do are in the train spurs but everywhere that it is street running there are no gates and looks just like Eglinton.
T3G
Senior Member
Is that a new regulation? There's loads of crosswalks in the old city that don't have full traffic lines, just the yellow crossing signals.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
If there is a driveway or a side street, we should expect to have people in the vicinity.
Should be some sort of barrier to direct pedestrians away from crossing at driveways and side-streets.
Should be some sort of barrier to direct pedestrians away from crossing at driveways and side-streets.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
In Ontario, "jaywalking" itself is not a specific offence, but crossing the road in a way that interferes with traffic can be illegal. While pedestrians can cross mid-block, they must yield the right-of-way to vehicles and avoid situations where they cause a hazard
Steve X
Senior Member
Aplus23
Active Member
Just wait until there are thousands of residents living on either side wanting or even being encouraged to walk across Eglinton.
The very term is akin to victim blaming. People will cross where they want to, and the road and LRV should be designed to reasonable accommodate those who want to cross the road. It’s not realistic to expect anyone to deviate more than a few minutes from their preferred straight A to B line.
Well do so at your own peril, why are you not crossing the road at the designated stoplight, why are you crossing active train tracks.
The pedestrian crosswalk is a few minute(s) walk in either direction. Would you cross a hwy
TOtramz
Active Member
I think they should have put fences on all parts of the ROW or ditch the green track because I think bare track is a lot less attractive to cross on foot.