[toronto647]

The least they can do is have the courage to let the public know this project is delayed until 2026 so all the speculation (and betting) stops.

Now everyday citizens are going to lose tons of $ betting on the line opening and the house will win majority of the $. Majority of these people are people who can't afford to lose money over betting when the LRT will open. So not only are we being deprived of riding the EG LRT, Torontonians are losing potentially millions of dollars on the line opening through betting platforms and this in turn will impact their quality of life and standard of living. Who knew the far reaching implications of this delay.

Very sad

 

[unrealestate]

The least they can do is have the courage to let the public know this project is delayed until 2026 so all the speculation (and betting) stops.

Now everyday citizens are going to lose tons of $ betting on the line opening and the house will win majority of the $. Majority of these people are people who can't afford to lose money over betting when the LRT will open. So not only are we being deprived of riding the EG LRT, Torontonians are losing potentially millions of dollars on the line opening through betting platforms and this in turn will impact their quality of life and standard of living. Who knew the far reaching implications of this delay.

Very sad

Please be sarcastic

 

[ThenWhat]

What does -280 mean? If you win, you lose? If the answer is post October, everyone who bets, loses? I don't know anything about betting.

If you bet $10 and LRT opens on or after November 1st, you win $3.57. Looks like easy money to me. But you'd better be quick. Fanduel will have to update the odds if they still want to come ahead on this.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

For comparison purposes, TTC buses were once considered middle aged at 8-10 years, are now seen as elderly. So the new LRVs are already middle-aged if they were buses. The LRVs should have a lifespan of 30+ years.

 

[T3G]

For comparison purposes, TTC buses were once considered middle aged at 8-10 years, are now seen as elderly. So the new LRVs are already middle-aged if they were buses. The LRVs should have a lifespan of 30+ years.

But they're not buses, so I don't really see the point of this comparison.

Also, 8-10 is a highly inaccurate age range for the cars to begin with. The last ones were delivered in 2022!!

Also, it's really hard to evaluate what the typical lifespan of a vehicle should be if it spends several years sitting around waiting for construction to finish.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

For comparison purposes, TTC buses were once considered middle aged at 8-10 years, are now seen as elderly. So the new LRVs are already middle-aged if they were buses. The LRVs should have a lifespan of 30+ years.

The reason for that change had more to do with the availability of funds for replacement than anything else. Back when the TTC was experiencing massive ridership growth, there wasn't enough money to purchase all new buses to handle the growth so instead they invested in heavy rebuilds of the "Classic" and "New Look" GM/MCI buses so that they wouldn't have to purchase so many new buses. When they finally retired the last of them, many were 30 years old or approaching that age. Rail vehicles tend to have much longer expected lives than buses simply because most of the parts that need replacing regularly aren't unique to the make or model of vehicle.

 

[PL1]

Interesting "Maps test" seen at the main entrance to Leaside Station this morning... Clearly the map is showing Keelsdale.

 

[Rainforest]

Also, it's really hard to evaluate what the typical lifespan of a vehicle should be if it spends several years sitting around waiting for construction to finish.

A reasonable guess, the vehicle ages slower when it is not in active use, but it still ages somewhat. The rate of aging should be in the range of 35% - 50% of the active-use rate of aging.

In case of ECLRT vehicles, the aging is not critical at this point, but is not negligible and needs to be accounted for in the long-term fleet replacement plans.

 

[cplchanb]

no testing today but at least the don valley semi permanent bus loop is finished

 

[A 6264]

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no testing today but at least the don valley semi permanent bus loop is finished

I'm presuming the bas bays behind the fence on the right, will open up for use. It does look like there's a waiting area at the far left. Based on the reason for this loop, I don't see a reason to not use the bus bays. Please, let us stand inside the station while waiting for the bus, in winter!

 

[Natika33]

I'm presuming the bas bays behind the fence on the right, will open up for use. It does look like there's a waiting area at the far left. Based on the reason for this loop, I don't see a reason to not use the bus bays. Please, let us stand inside the station while waiting for the bus, in winter!

The door to the station on the east side has the Don Valley signage & no "do not enter" signs, while the opposite is true for the west side. Presumably this means customers will be able to access the station from the east side.

 

[crs1026]

A reasonable guess, the vehicle ages slower when it is not in active use, but it still ages somewhat. The rate of aging should be in the range of 35% - 50% of the active-use rate of aging.

In case of ECLRT vehicles, the aging is not critical at this point, but is not negligible and needs to be accounted for in the long-term fleet replacement plans.

There will be components whose aging is time-based - meaning these deteriorate and need maintenance whether the tram is used or not - and other components whose aging is use-based - meaning they will be fine until the heavy wear and tear of daily service sets in.

Five years is long enough to need a renewal program to start replacing some of those time-based components. Plus, the testing in aggregate probably now represents a year of use, so there is some wear and tear already accumulated. If the contractor has been laying off this maintenance, figuring it isn't accumulating prior to handover.... I imagine there are reliability issues already showing up. TTC may not be perfect, but I bet they know tons about how fast Flexities age and which components need fixing soonest.

And in the end, rust never sleeps. Trams that have been sitting in the yard may not have mechanical wear and tear, and will have minimal exposure to salt... but penetration of ground moisture will have been happening even without the cars going anywhere.

- Paul

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Guessing they are trying to fix any problems on Line 5 to avoid "slow zones" when it opens. However, if they opened Line 5 today, wouldn't the operation of be similar to current Line 1 & Line 2 with their "slow zones"?

If so, open Line 5 with the "slow zones". The experience would be "normal" for TTC users.

 

[6ixGod]

What I find particularly interesting is how not a single politician at City Hall or Queen’s Park (either side of the aisle) is actively demanding an independent investigation. That’s because Crosslinx Transit Solutions includes SNC-Lavalin and EllisDon…..two companies deeply tied to Ontario’s political elite across party lines.

SNC-Lavalin has a proven record of illegal political donations and federal ethics scandals. EllisDon’s leadership has long-standing ties to the Ontario Liberals and documented influence over key labour legislation. Even Ontario’s Progressive Conservatives have been influenced by EllisDon donations.

These firms profit from delays under the public-private partnership model, where every hold-up means more billable hours and more public money drained….all with zero accountability. The endless delays and silence from politicians reveals a system rigged to protect these entrenched interests, not the public.

And don’t expect to hear the names SNC-Lavalin or EllisDon mentioned on CP24 or most local news outlets.

Honestly, I can’t stand CP24….it’s a total joke as a news source. They never dig beneath the surface or investigate the real reasons behind issues. Instead, they serve up shallow, sensational stories and treat Toronto like some backwater town. They get way too hyped whenever a celebrity or outsider visits, acting like it’s front-page breaking news. Meanwhile, the screen is cluttered with a chaotic mess of weather updates, stock tickers, traffic cams, and flashing banners….so many distractions it’s impossible to focus on anything meaningful.

Real investigative journalism? Forget it. It’s all style over substance, and that complacency helps keep these political and corporate interests safely under the radar.

 

[BrenWilson]

The NDP generally makes a headline about wanting more answers every time it cycles through the news. Asking for a public or independent investigation while the PCs sit in a majority is just a pointless move, iirc Toronto council asked for one last year.