[Monarch Butterfly]

Betting that the Gordie Howe International Bridge will open first before the Eglinton Line 5.

They're removing the cranes on the bridge as we write...

 

[Steve X]

I suspect it's not lawsuits, so much as insurance. If an insurance company says, "we won't cover you if you do that", then you don't do that.

I’m pretty sure the “insurance company” you are referring to is the taxpayers.

 

[nfitz]

I suspect it's not lawsuits, so much as insurance. If an insurance company says, "we won't cover you if you do that", then you don't do that.

Is the TTC no longer self-insured?

 

[crs1026]

So, what would prevent a decision to operate say during rush hours only? Continue testing in non revenue hours ?

- Paul

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

Is the TTC no longer self-insured?

The TTC is insured by TTC Insurance Company Limited, and as of 2022 the City of Toronto's automobile insurance is provided by TTC ICL.

 

[toonderly]

So, what would prevent a decision to operate say during rush hours only? Continue testing in non revenue hours ?

That feels like the wrong question to me. The decision to move from test to production in a rational system would be based on whether all critical and high priority defects have been resolved. If something is not fit for production that should mean it is too risky to be released to the public, and letting the public use it in rush hour would be even worse than letting them use it during lower volume periods which would itself also be bad.

One thing that creates confusion for us in this case is the lead time that the TTC apparently needs after the handover before opening. If there are things that have to be fixed before the handover can happen and can't be fixed after the handover and before opening then I think the question I would have is whether that is a real risk or just a consequence of contracts and procedures and so on.

 

[nfitz]

The TTC is insured by TTC Insurance Company Limited, and as of 2022 the City of Toronto's automobile insurance is provided by TTC ICL.

I wonder who owns the TTC ICL.

 

[canucks83]

So ....we were led to believe that a handover happened like a month ago....now the opening date might happen "sometime this fall".

Where there's smoke there's fire and the smoke is telling me metrolinx cannot be trusted.

Fall start in September., if it open in the fall everybody should be happy.

 

[A 6264]

I wonder who owns the TTC ICL.

Google sez: "TTC Insurance Company Limited (TTCICL), a subsidiary of Toronto Coach Terminal Inc., which is ultimately owned by the TTC"
Which isn't surprising. I know it sounds odd that they pay dividends to themselves, and then pay claims back to themselves (or make excuses to themselves for not paying out to themselves!), but that's often how insurance works in industry.

 

[MegaSea]

Fall start in September., if it open in the fall everybody should be happy.

This will never happen, because TTC just want our subway worst than North Korea subway
You can see in station celling this

 

[toonderly]

CP24 is reporting that the Ministry of Transportation says "In June we formally transferred operations of the line to the TTC. As we have said, we are targeting September for an opening date."

 

[PurplePinky]

It’s all a bit of a farce really.

There are rumours of possible tracks sinking near the Bayview station due to quick sand.

I’m not sure about that but there are hidden rivers in that part of town.

And how does one have a soft opening of a subway?

It’s either open or it’s not. IMO

 

[Kyle Campbell]

I'm kind of wondering if this little dance means that the province is trying to deflect blame onto the TTC if September doesn't happen

.https://www.cp24.com/politics/toronto-city-hall/2025/07/17/ontario-doubles-down-on-september-opening-for-eglinton-lrt-despite-ttc-calling-timeline-a-reach/

 

[hawc]

There are rumours of possible tracks sinking near the Bayview station due to quick sand.

You guys were all getting sick of me joking about "Cracked foundation slab at Eglinton" but this is ever better.

I didn't even know you could have quick sand in non tropical regions.

Hahaha.

 

[Richard White]

There are rumours of possible tracks sinking near the Bayview station due to quick sand.

Under normal circumstances I'd think you were making things up.

Unfortunately so many things have gone sideways that this is actually believable.

What next.. the discovery of an ancient indian burial ground near Yonge and Eglinton causing another year long delay?

*sigh*