The iconic red is almost all gone now.

Editorially, I dislike the black. The exterior recladding is not an improvement.

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jta5 said:
The iconic red is almost all gone now.

Editorially, I dislike the black. The exterior recladding is not an improvement.

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Orange, which always felt odd to me.

Hopefully the paint lasts, and eventually there is a more substantial external change which I think most of us were hoping for. But seems they put much of the money into the interior aside from the renovations to the York Blvd. side; this thing needed a lot of updating (roof and cooling system were two major issues I can recall being mentioned previously, aside from the concourses which must have been a big expense). As long as it's better used it'll be worthwhile.
 
ScreamingViking said:
Orange, which always felt odd to me.

Hopefully the paint lasts, and eventually there is a more substantial external change which I think most of us were hoping for. But seems they put much of the money into the interior aside from the renovations to the York Blvd. side; this thing needed a lot of updating (roof and cooling system were two major issues I can recall being mentioned previously, aside from the concourses which must have been a big expense). As long as it's better used it'll be worthwhile.
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The back side of the arena looks pretty good.

I don't think a bigger external change is likely to happen at any point in the future. A different facade really serves no functional purpose if the arena is up and running and pleasing its tenants and patrons.
 
Idk but I've always kind of enjoyed the overall shape and curved corners of the building.

I'd be over the moon if they just simply covered the lozenge roof with a green roof (wildflower meadow?) as well as the lower roof all around it.

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BCTed said:
The back side of the arena looks pretty good.

I don't think a bigger external change is likely to happen at any point in the future. A different facade really serves no functional purpose if the arena is up and running and pleasing its tenants and patrons.
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An Urban Designer would disagree. A building that large and prominent has an impact on its immediate neighborhood.

They've invested in the money making side of things, but literally we get a coat of paint on the outside. It is what it is, but a huge letdown from the St. Balsille renderings from 15 years ago.

I've always assumed the orange exterior was because it's NDP colours and Hamilton was an NDP town when it was built. Pretty sure the guy it was named for was NDP.
 
Yorken Bay said:
I've always assumed the orange exterior was because it's NDP colours and Hamilton was an NDP town when it was built. Pretty sure the guy it was named for was NDP.
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Victor Copps was a Liberal, as was his daughter Sheila, who was a prominent federal MP when the arena opened.
 
To me there just seems to be too much of that charcoal grey. It's not horrible but I feel it was chosen only because it's not white. I was hoping for a clean coat of white and some intense programable lighting to turn it any colour to suit different themes.
 
Yorken Bay said:
An Urban Designer would disagree. A building that large and prominent has an impact on its immediate neighborhood.

They've invested in the money making side of things, but literally we get a coat of paint on the outside. It is what it is, but a huge letdown from the St. Balsille renderings from 15 years ago.

I've always assumed the orange exterior was because it's NDP colours and Hamilton was an NDP town when it was built. Pretty sure the guy it was named for was NDP.
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The building exterior is definitely not the best looking. I agree that the charcoal grey could be better, but I largely believe it will look better for longer than white paint.

The difference between this and the Balsille era was the prospect of the NHL coming - it was much more real then compared to now. The interior is the most important part of this project though, since having the modern amenities/configuration indoors makes both the player and fan experiences significantly better and narrows the gap between TD Coliseum and what a proper state-of-the-art venue would offer. There is little need to renovate the exterior/expand concourses at this time unless a high-profile tenant (the one we all want lol) warrants that level of investment.
 
ericmacm said:
There is little need to renovate the exterior/expand concourses at this time unless a high-profile tenant (the one we all want lol) warrants that level of investment.
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That tenant is likely never to happen. Some of us were alive and enthused when Hamilton's biggest chance at the NHL occurred (i.e., early 1990s, Ron Joyce as prospective owner during the expansion that gave the league Ottawa and Tampa), but I've moved on. NHL = Not Hamilton League, for me.

I think the exterior will get renovated in time, but only when that's needed enough to justify the cost. I'm curious about what's been done to the concourses though.
 
ScreamingViking said:
That tenant is likely never to happen. Some of us were alive and enthused when Hamilton's biggest chance at the NHL occurred (i.e., early 1990s, Ron Joyce as prospective owner during the expansion that gave the league Ottawa and Tampa), but I've moved on. NHL = Not Hamilton League, for me.

I think the exterior will get renovated in time, but only when that's needed enough to justify the cost. I'm curious about what's been done to the concourses though.
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What would the trigger point be for an re-done exterior to be needed? It doesn't feel like there would be much of a business case at any point.
 
ScreamingViking said:
That tenant is likely never to happen. Some of us were alive and enthused when Hamilton's biggest chance at the NHL occurred (i.e., early 1990s, Ron Joyce as prospective owner during the expansion that gave the league Ottawa and Tampa), but I've moved on. NHL = Not Hamilton League, for me.

I think the exterior will get renovated in time, but only when that's needed enough to justify the cost. I'm curious about what's been done to the concourses though.
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I've stopped following the leafs and NHL in general directly because of the NHL's history of screwing Hamilton.

There's something like 8M people in the GTA and the NHL gets a significant chunk of revenue from our locale.

If only people would join a boycott of the NHL until they gave us a team. It would have very good chance success.
 
BCTed said:
What would the trigger point be for an re-done exterior to be needed? It doesn't feel like there would be much of a business case at any point.
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Either the arena needs to attract a major league tenant, either an existing leauge or new start up WHA style. There was talk of a 3 on 3 league with a $25M roster budget per team.

Or the city surrounding the arena needs to become so successful that the arena management itself decides it needs to step its game up.

By that point we're probably looking at a new arena altogether anyway.

It just seems ridiculous this is the best we can get in the 3/4th largest metro area in North America.

New arenas are being built everywhere, 2 new ones in Alberta with half the population and a iffy economy, and we get a literal fresh coat of paint on a cramped 80s relic ffs.
 
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