afransen
Senior Member
Perhaps the infrastructure Ontario needs is an organization that can reliably build, say, 5km of light rail per year on time and on budget. The machine that builds the rails rather than the rails itself. Stable and consistent funding, and a pipeline of projects lined up for the next three decades.
mtomo
New Member
QEW/Hurontario seens to be the only place with no track installed. Whats hoiding that up?
ShonTron
Moderator
Also the portion from Highway 407 to Steeles.
There’s really no excuse for not moving the stop back to the north side of the intersection to be next to the bus terminal, given how much time was lost already.
drum118
Superstar
Need to do a trip to have a look at the whole corridor to see what is missing and not as simple as you see it,
You have most of the track in place from Absolute Av to Sq One Dr; a block south of Eglinton to Hwy 401 south side with a few spots missing and not fully in place; from the 401 west off ramp to Topflight with a number of spots not in place or missing. The 401 overpass is missing. Tracks are in place on the elevated section I think, but not total sure as you cannot see it from the ground. Mineola intersection along with Queensway, Central Pkwy, Elm, Burnhamthorpe and Mathew Gate have track across them and that is all for Hurontario trackwork. Lot of guideway in place from Burnhamthorpe to north of the QEW, but no tracks. The ramp from Sq One Dr to the elevated section in place with no tracks.
Trackwork was supposed to start beginning of May from Eglinton to Topflight since this is the test bed and burn-in area that need to be finished and fix so testing could start in July or after Topflight intersection was replace that has yet to happen. With tracks torn up going to the OMSF, be lucky to see any testing until late fall or this year. Need to have the OS in place and it totally missing from the OMSF along with supports poles south of Waltline.
May was to see the guideway built for King St intersection, follow by Dundas, but with the duct and trench work taking place on Dundas, it may happen late this month or early July. Nothing stopping having other intersection dome before King.
As for moving Steeles Station to the north like it should be, ML needs to amend Mobilinx contract to cover the cost of building the guideway across the intersection as it will be only a few $100,000 to do it on the worse side. Amending contracts is a fact of life and no big deal other ML has a thorn in their rear. All I know, Mobilinx is working to the T of the contract for the current work and is supposed to not be doing the work for the loop or the extension to Brampton downtown. Those two extension look to be getting pushed down the road due to funding issues for all ML projects regardless what Ford has stated in January this year as well last year.
Until the northbound traffic lanes are shifted back to where they are supposed to be, work on the southbound lanes from Steeles to the 407 off ramp cannot be built. Once that is done, the guideway can be built in 2026.
As for the hold up, need to ask both ML and Mobilinx that question, but don't expect an answer if the City of Mississauga can't get it. Talk to your ward councilor and see what they have to say about the project.
SR95
New Member
There was news that Mobilinx had their credit rating downgraded in late 2024 and word is they've had some layoffs this year. It all seems to point to financial struggles for the contractor on this project.
I'm sure it's more complicated and there are more issues than purely financial but that would at least partially explain the sluggish pace of this project noted by drum and others in recent months.
Time and time again we see these massive P3's Metrolinx insists on balloon in budget and lag way behind on their schedules, which begs the question why we insist on building things this way in this province ...
I'm sure it's more complicated and there are more issues than purely financial but that would at least partially explain the sluggish pace of this project noted by drum and others in recent months.
Time and time again we see these massive P3's Metrolinx insists on balloon in budget and lag way behind on their schedules, which begs the question why we insist on building things this way in this province ...
afransen
Senior Member
It's definitely a case for MX to use different procurement strategies and see what works best. What they've been doing has been a disaster.
Allandale25
Senior Member
drum118
Superstar
June 4
@Dan416, how was your surprised walk to or from Cooksville GO Station on Monday??
I see Mobilinx did their famous no notices sent out for closing sidewalks off for a month or post proper signage advising pedestrian about the closure and how to get around it.
Noticed grading today for the west sidewalk by the access to to GO platform as I drove by and said to myself where the notice for this closure and expect a lot of GO riders were caught off guard on Monday when they found the walkway close. Coming home, could not see any notice at John St and parked at the plaza to have a look. Just an arrow at John to cross the street with a hand made sign on the fence blocking the sidewalk by the apartment. walked through the apartment to get some shot and was told by residents sitting out in the lot that the sidewalk was close. Even access from the walkway between the townhouse and the Apartment had no real access to the apartment land and that is a long walk using Fairview to Joanne Dr to the walkway/road back to the townhouses.
Ended up talking to a number of the residents sitting outside, they said they been tell pedestrian who walked into their area that the sidewalk was close. They were never notify of the closure and find it a pain to walk up to Fairview to go south on the east side. None of them support the LRT and seen a fair number of tearing up things and reinstalled them again. Various waterlines were the wrong size in the first place..
All the sidewalk has been removed for the fence off area with work taking place at the GO station area.
I see more fencing is up for the TLK area. The north-west corner is now setup to allow pedestrian to cross Dundas St as well able to walk along the northside. I guess a lot of complains finally got that change made and should have been in place on day one.
Trench work hasn't moved at all from where I saw it the last time and no one working on it. Gravel was been delivery to the Substation so it can be place in the footing for it.
As a note to those who use Central Pkwy east of Hurontario St, the city is looking at putting in duel lanes roundabouts at Cliff and Bloor as well bike lanes on both side of the road up on grass area next to the curb. Since CP is to be repaved in the next 5 years from Hurontario to Eglinton, the city is doing phase 1 to Burnhamthorpe around 2027. 65% of driver are doing 69km in the 50km zone from Hurontario to Cliff and 59km from Cliff to Burnhamthorpe. CP is a race track in the first place.
More up on my site
For some odd reason, Flickr has kill a fair number of my photos in various posting and refusing to give me a link to some photos I want to post shot today. These are the only ones I can link at this time.
@Dan416, how was your surprised walk to or from Cooksville GO Station on Monday??
I see Mobilinx did their famous no notices sent out for closing sidewalks off for a month or post proper signage advising pedestrian about the closure and how to get around it.
Noticed grading today for the west sidewalk by the access to to GO platform as I drove by and said to myself where the notice for this closure and expect a lot of GO riders were caught off guard on Monday when they found the walkway close. Coming home, could not see any notice at John St and parked at the plaza to have a look. Just an arrow at John to cross the street with a hand made sign on the fence blocking the sidewalk by the apartment. walked through the apartment to get some shot and was told by residents sitting out in the lot that the sidewalk was close. Even access from the walkway between the townhouse and the Apartment had no real access to the apartment land and that is a long walk using Fairview to Joanne Dr to the walkway/road back to the townhouses.
Ended up talking to a number of the residents sitting outside, they said they been tell pedestrian who walked into their area that the sidewalk was close. They were never notify of the closure and find it a pain to walk up to Fairview to go south on the east side. None of them support the LRT and seen a fair number of tearing up things and reinstalled them again. Various waterlines were the wrong size in the first place..
All the sidewalk has been removed for the fence off area with work taking place at the GO station area.
I see more fencing is up for the TLK area. The north-west corner is now setup to allow pedestrian to cross Dundas St as well able to walk along the northside. I guess a lot of complains finally got that change made and should have been in place on day one.
Trench work hasn't moved at all from where I saw it the last time and no one working on it. Gravel was been delivery to the Substation so it can be place in the footing for it.
As a note to those who use Central Pkwy east of Hurontario St, the city is looking at putting in duel lanes roundabouts at Cliff and Bloor as well bike lanes on both side of the road up on grass area next to the curb. Since CP is to be repaved in the next 5 years from Hurontario to Eglinton, the city is doing phase 1 to Burnhamthorpe around 2027. 65% of driver are doing 69km in the 50km zone from Hurontario to Cliff and 59km from Cliff to Burnhamthorpe. CP is a race track in the first place.
More up on my site
For some odd reason, Flickr has kill a fair number of my photos in various posting and refusing to give me a link to some photos I want to post shot today. These are the only ones I can link at this time.
Dan416
Senior Member
June 4
@Dan416, how was your surprised walk to or from Cooksville GO Station on Monday??
I see Mobilinx did their famous no notices sent out for closing sidewalks off for a month or post proper signage advising pedestrian about the closure and how to get around it.
Noticed grading today for the west sidewalk by the access to to GO platform as I drove by and said to myself where the notice for this closure and expect a lot of GO riders were caught off guard on Monday when they found the walkway close. Coming home, could not see any notice at John St and parked at the plaza to have a look. Just an arrow at John to cross the street with a hand made sign on the fence blocking the sidewalk by the apartment. walked through the apartment to get some shot and was told by residents sitting out in the lot that the sidewalk was close. Even access from the walkway between the townhouse and the Apartment had no real access to the apartment land and that is a long walk using Fairview to Joanne Dr to the walkway/road back to the townhouses.
Ended up talking to a number of the residents sitting outside, they said they been tell pedestrian who walked into their area that the sidewalk was close. They were never notify of the closure and find it a pain to walk up to Fairview to go south on the east side. None of them support the LRT and seen a fair number of tearing up things and reinstalled them again. Various waterlines were the wrong size in the first place..
All the sidewalk has been removed for the fence off area with work taking place at the GO station area.
I see more fencing is up for the TLK area. The north-west corner is now setup to allow pedestrian to cross Dundas St as well able to walk along the northside. I guess a lot of complains finally got that change made and should have been in place on day one.
Trench work hasn't moved at all from where I saw it the last time and no one working on it. Gravel was been delivery to the Substation so it can be place in the footing for it.
As a note to those who use Central Pkwy east of Hurontario St, the city is looking at putting in duel lanes roundabouts at Cliff and Bloor as well bike lanes on both side of the road up on grass area next to the curb. Since CP is to be repaved in the next 5 years from Hurontario to Eglinton, the city is doing phase 1 to Burnhamthorpe around 2027. 65% of driver are doing 69km in the 50km zone from Hurontario to Cliff and 59km from Cliff to Burnhamthorpe. CP is a race track in the first place.
More up on my site
For some odd reason, Flickr has kill a fair number of my photos in various posting and refusing to give me a link to some photos I want to post shot today. These are the only ones I can link at this time.
Yeah I thought about posting about this, but I did not have pictures and I didn't know how long this was going to be going on, because the last time it wasn't for very long. From the looks of it and them having torn up the old sidewalk, I'm anticipating that it will be longer this time. It was/is annoying. It adds about 3-5 minutes and 500 meters to my walk to the GO station. Not insurmountable by any means, but having to cross Hurontario twice is definitely annoying.
drum118
Superstar
When I saw this as I drove by, I thought of you and a few others having a shock on Monday over the closure. I will be visiting ML on Thursday over this and a number of things.
Talking to my ward councilor Tuesday night, he said both ML and Mobilinx don't want to talk to the city nor provide them an update even behind close doors. When they talk to councilors for the corridor, its lip service when it happens and prefer not wanting to talk to them when questions are asked. The way I see it, communication is unknown to both parties and they seem to don't care what impact it has on anyone one. Anything to do with pedestrian is an after thought as the cars come first.
No need to post photos when these things happen as it is forming us of issues not seen by others, but have an impact on others.
drum118
Superstar
June 6
The reason the north-east corner is now setup with proper access and barrier to go east on Dundas, cross Dundas there as well go north, a person on a scooter was hit this past week. Pedestrian are not going to do a 3 crossing to cross Dundas or to go east when they are in a hurry or trying to catch a bus. Sad it took someone being hit because Metrolinx is only thinking about cars and safety of pedestrians that been raised in the pass being ignore. I do hope the person wasn't badly injured and hope Mobilinx cover all costs for that person and scooter since its was their fault in the first place.
The trench work has now advance to the east end of CIBC land with about 60 feet to go to get to the last duct row. More of the completed trench work has been backfill and ready for paving. I hope they are not waiting to do one paving job that is preventing the reopening of the north-east corner. Maybe they should had requested some of the asphalt being place to fill the gap between the completed guideway curb south of the Queensway today.
Sump pump on site to pour the concrete for the duct work around the substation so it can be bury and the area level. Most of the base of the substations I have seen have a full concrete base, but the 2 on Dundas only concrete edges with a gavel base.
Traffic should be back to 2 lanes on Sat now the missing southbound curb has been poured with asphalt being place for the gap between it and the road along with patch work in the lane. The Queensway Station ducting is now in place like John St and that fast since I drove by the area last Friday.
The North Service Road is now open with traffic using the new northbound lanes from the QEW to Sherobee. Looks like they are getting ready to do guideway work from where it stops north of the Service Rd to the westbound QEW off/on ramp. Part of it will be for the northbound track north of the Service road and both tracks on the south side.
I noticed a Britannia that I was stop legally to make a left turn at the marking on the road as well other lanes beside me and noticed we are stop in the middle of the crosswalk of all things. Haft of it is in the new location while the rest is in the old location. Someone needs to move the traffic lanes stop location back so there no interfering with the crossing.
A few more up on my site
The reason the north-east corner is now setup with proper access and barrier to go east on Dundas, cross Dundas there as well go north, a person on a scooter was hit this past week. Pedestrian are not going to do a 3 crossing to cross Dundas or to go east when they are in a hurry or trying to catch a bus. Sad it took someone being hit because Metrolinx is only thinking about cars and safety of pedestrians that been raised in the pass being ignore. I do hope the person wasn't badly injured and hope Mobilinx cover all costs for that person and scooter since its was their fault in the first place.
The trench work has now advance to the east end of CIBC land with about 60 feet to go to get to the last duct row. More of the completed trench work has been backfill and ready for paving. I hope they are not waiting to do one paving job that is preventing the reopening of the north-east corner. Maybe they should had requested some of the asphalt being place to fill the gap between the completed guideway curb south of the Queensway today.
Sump pump on site to pour the concrete for the duct work around the substation so it can be bury and the area level. Most of the base of the substations I have seen have a full concrete base, but the 2 on Dundas only concrete edges with a gavel base.
Traffic should be back to 2 lanes on Sat now the missing southbound curb has been poured with asphalt being place for the gap between it and the road along with patch work in the lane. The Queensway Station ducting is now in place like John St and that fast since I drove by the area last Friday.
The North Service Road is now open with traffic using the new northbound lanes from the QEW to Sherobee. Looks like they are getting ready to do guideway work from where it stops north of the Service Rd to the westbound QEW off/on ramp. Part of it will be for the northbound track north of the Service road and both tracks on the south side.
I noticed a Britannia that I was stop legally to make a left turn at the marking on the road as well other lanes beside me and noticed we are stop in the middle of the crosswalk of all things. Haft of it is in the new location while the rest is in the old location. Someone needs to move the traffic lanes stop location back so there no interfering with the crossing.
A few more up on my site
drum118
Superstar
June 8
Had a look at Topflight, 407 bridge and Ray Lawson in place of something else as it will be a month before I see them again.
Topflight will not open in July and maybe not in August if the removal of more trackwork keep taking place. The 2 curve tacks that where in place last week have been removed along with their anchoring system. the 2 diamond are now sitting on ties on the southbound track with more concrete work for the diamonds as well a larger number of anchors been installed. Hard to say if the splicing will be done where they lay now on ties or done when the new anchors for the diamond is in place. At the rate they are going, looks like they should have rip the whole area out and started fresh.
The 407 bridge will not be ready this month as they should be finished the formwork for the bridge east barrier wall for railing, but not the barrier wall between the guideway and the road. the barrier wall can be push drown the road by reducing northbound traffic lanes and not sure what is taking place for the guideway. Not sure if the white large bags are for something or doing a stress test as they are space for the whole bridge with the bags between the track area. Then there is the building of the curbs including the 2 407 ramps, grading and then paving.
I did note on one of my visits to Brampton that some of the southbound curb could be pour to a point a very large chunk of that curb has been poured from Ray Lawson to north of the 407 westbound ramp with a number of sections missing. With luck, the southbound lanes could be shifted to the new lanes in July along with the northbound lanes. This will allow construction of the guideway for that area.
Can't recall off hand if all the curb was in place for the northbound lane at County Court/Ray Lawson intersection as it look like it was repoured or not based on the material on the road from it.
Had to laugh at the marking on the asphalt sidewalk where the bus stop used to be for southbound as it has an arrow pointing north with bus stop below it. The stop was moved back to its original location with the new curb been poured for the old locations. Expect it will be move again when they do the curb work on the north side this summer.
More up on my site.
Had a look at Topflight, 407 bridge and Ray Lawson in place of something else as it will be a month before I see them again.
Topflight will not open in July and maybe not in August if the removal of more trackwork keep taking place. The 2 curve tacks that where in place last week have been removed along with their anchoring system. the 2 diamond are now sitting on ties on the southbound track with more concrete work for the diamonds as well a larger number of anchors been installed. Hard to say if the splicing will be done where they lay now on ties or done when the new anchors for the diamond is in place. At the rate they are going, looks like they should have rip the whole area out and started fresh.
The 407 bridge will not be ready this month as they should be finished the formwork for the bridge east barrier wall for railing, but not the barrier wall between the guideway and the road. the barrier wall can be push drown the road by reducing northbound traffic lanes and not sure what is taking place for the guideway. Not sure if the white large bags are for something or doing a stress test as they are space for the whole bridge with the bags between the track area. Then there is the building of the curbs including the 2 407 ramps, grading and then paving.
I did note on one of my visits to Brampton that some of the southbound curb could be pour to a point a very large chunk of that curb has been poured from Ray Lawson to north of the 407 westbound ramp with a number of sections missing. With luck, the southbound lanes could be shifted to the new lanes in July along with the northbound lanes. This will allow construction of the guideway for that area.
Can't recall off hand if all the curb was in place for the northbound lane at County Court/Ray Lawson intersection as it look like it was repoured or not based on the material on the road from it.
Had to laugh at the marking on the asphalt sidewalk where the bus stop used to be for southbound as it has an arrow pointing north with bus stop below it. The stop was moved back to its original location with the new curb been poured for the old locations. Expect it will be move again when they do the curb work on the north side this summer.
More up on my site.
Dan416
Senior Member
Pics from Thursday, Friday and Monday.
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drum118
Superstar
Its to bad that an accessibility ramp cannot be built while doing this work as there is enough room for it