[mdrejhon]

There's a lot of yummy nationalties -- and also provincials and municipalities. Along with French Fries, Canadian Bacon, we've got Yorkshire Pudding or Parmesan Cheese. And single words, like Hamburgers and Frankfurthers. I'm getting hungry.

 

[BurlOak]

If the space is as limited as they say, I'd think the solution would be to lengthen the platform even further north (move some track if necessary) and simply have the northbound platform and southbound platform end-to-end instead of side-by-side.

This makes quite good sense. Even if the platforms are not end to end, there could be a 200m long centre platform. The Southbound train stops at the northern 150m of this platform and the Northbound train stops at the southern 150m of this platform. This essentially gives 33% more space on the platform for passengers.

 

[TransitPolicyChanger]

This makes quite good sense. Even if the platforms are not end to end, there could be a 200m long centre platform. The Southbound train stops at the northern 150m of this platform and the Northbound train stops at the southern 150m of this platform. This essentially gives 33% more space on the platform for passengers.

This would create more space on the platforms, but the bottle-neck will still be at the transfer point to the LRT. Its Bloor-Yonge Part II for the transfer between trains, but made worse because both are centre platform. In theory there is room on the west side of the existing station once they demolish the abandoned bus bays - however, the parking garage overtop of the existing bus bays (and the bus terminal itself) pose a larger problem as too would the north end of the platform. The current design concept also results in the loss of a pocket track - but considering how close we are to Davisville its probably not much of a concern.

 

[nfitz]

The current design concept also results in the loss of a pocket track - but considering how close we are to Davisville its probably not much of a concern.

A pocket track - hmm. That would be a 500 foot pocket track. Perhaps there is space for 2 back-back platforms.

Oh well, it wouldn't be impossible to change that after it opens, if it's really horrifically overcrowded.

 

[Uncle Teddy]

Most people currently use the north end of the platform to exit to the street, Yonge Eglinton Centre or to the building above. Moving the Yonge platform north will mean people can get out north of Eglinton as well as south of Eglinton. This will do plenty to alleviate the congestion within the station.

 

[nfitz]

Most people currently use the north end of the platform to exit to the street, Yonge Eglinton Centre or to the building above. Moving the Yonge platform north will mean people can get out north of Eglinton as well as south of Eglinton. This will do plenty to alleviate the congestion within the station.

Oh it will. But presumably the number of people will double or treble being an interchange station.

 

[Edward Skira]

I'd be surprised if the traffic doubles or more. Certainly not in the short term (say 10 years). How many more people will take Eglinton once the LRT opens versus the number that take it now on the many buses coming here daily? Certainly there will be growth but how much. Another thing that will change. People will now be able to go straight from the Eglinton platform to the Yonge platform without having to walk from the bus bays. That will reduce crowding within the upper level of the station.

 

[ShonTron]

People looove saying "Spanish solution" and apparently it's the solution to everything. Spanish solution this, spanish solution that, every station should be converted to Spanish solution apparently. It's the solution!

Nobody expects the Spanish Solution!

 

[nfitz]

I'd be surprised if the traffic doubles or more. Certainly not in the short term (say 10 years). How many more people will take Eglinton once the LRT opens versus the number that take it now on the many buses coming here daily?

The EA identifies in Section 4.1.4.1 (Exhibit 161) that the current (2009) Peak Hour Ridership of the TTC buses arriving at Eglinton Station is 4,941 riders. Presumably some do stuff like change from Eglinton West to Eglinton East.

Then in in Exhibit 5-1 of Appendix N they show that the 2031 Peak Hour arrivals at Eglinton station on the LRT is 9,100 - though like the buses, some will stay on the train. So that's almost double. Combined with future development/growth in the neighbourhood, I wouldn't be surprised if there is double the 2009 ridership on the Yonge platforms of the existing Eglinton station. Looking at recent reports, ridership has already increased 10% since 2009, being 70,720 a day in 2009/2010 compared to 78,770 currently (2013).

So 140,000 if doubled? Trebling is I admit pushing it, the more I look at the numbers.

 

[nfitz]

Nobody expects the Spanish Solution!

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[Midtown Urbanist]

I'd be surprised if the traffic doubles or more. Certainly not in the short term (say 10 years). How many more people will take Eglinton once the LRT opens versus the number that take it now on the many buses coming here daily? Certainly there will be growth but how much. Another thing that will change. People will now be able to go straight from the Eglinton platform to the Yonge platform without having to walk from the bus bays. That will reduce crowding within the upper level of the station.

I was thinking about this recently. The central portion of Eglinton has a very different mode share compared to Sheppard for instance, it is more split between public transportation and cars. The suburban automobile mentality is not as prevalent and people here are more willing to take public transportation like in downtown. I think the biggest detriment to more upper middle class people from adjacent neighborhoods from taking the subway are the present buses. Subways may be clean and great, but buses tend to be associated with dirtiness and well.. the proletariat.

I think more people, especially from the nearby neighborhoods, would be willing to take the Eglinton LRT when it opens over the present buses.

 

[sixrings]

I'd be surprised if the traffic doubles or more. Certainly not in the short term (say 10 years). How many more people will take Eglinton once the LRT opens versus the number that take it now on the many buses coming here daily? Certainly there will be growth but how much. Another thing that will change. People will now be able to go straight from the Eglinton platform to the Yonge platform without having to walk from the bus bays. That will reduce crowding within the upper level of the station.

I live on Eglinton and avoid the bus because it's dirty and often too full to get a seat. I will be using the LRT. I am sure there are other people like me. Often if you try to get on the eastbound bus just east of the allen there are no spots for anyone else to get on.

 

[ehlow]

I was thinking about this recently. The central portion of Eglinton has a very different mode share compared to Sheppard for instance, it is more split between public transportation and cars. The suburban automobile mentality is not as prevalent and people here are more willing to take public transportation like in downtown. I think the biggest detriment to more upper middle class people from adjacent neighborhoods from taking the subway are the present buses. Subways may be clean and great, but buses tend to be associated with dirtiness and well.. the proletariat.

I think more people, especially from the nearby neighborhoods, would be willing to take the Eglinton LRT when it opens over the present buses.

I don't really think the anti-bus sentiment is prevalent in Toronto. From what I've ready it's pretty strong in the US, but those tend to be cities where buses are the only public transit option and where mainly low income people take transit. In a city like Toronto where people who own Tesla cars are on the subway talking about their Muskoka cottage on the way to their 100 level Leafs seats and Bay St jobs, where buses are integrated into the subway such that most people who get on the subway transfer from a bus, I think there isn't as much anti-bus bias.

I agree that central Eglinton tends to be more likely to take public transit than people who live on Sheppard.

I live on Eglinton and avoid the bus because it's dirty and often too full to get a seat. I will be using the LRT. I am sure there are other people like me. Often if you try to get on the eastbound bus just east of the allen there are no spots for anyone else to get on.

Are you travelling to the subway? If so, what do you do instead of taking the bus?

Personally I've had mostly good experiences taking the bus to the subway.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

I live on Eglinton and avoid the bus because it's dirty and often too full to get a seat. I will be using the LRT. I am sure there are other people like me. Often if you try to get on the eastbound bus just east of the allen there are no spots for anyone else to get on.

I take the bus to and from Eglinton Station daily. I find that the busses are rarely full. 90% of the time I'm able to find a seat. In fact, seeing how underused the busses are first hand makes me second guess my support of the Eglinton Subway & LRT.

 

[ehlow]

I take the bus to and from Eglinton Station daily. I find that the busses are rarely full. 90% of the time I'm able to find a seat. In fact, seeing how underused the busses are first hand makes me second guess my support of the Eglinton Subway & LRT.

Dude. Check out the ridership numbers on the buses along Eglinton. They're pretty much as high as regular bus lines can be.