[TheTigerMaster]

The condos on sheppard dont generate much usage because people buy with the idea that they will take the 401 for the majority of their trips but the subway on the rare trips. I dont necessarily believe people will have that same way of thinking when buying on Eglinton. It is already a traffic nightmare and the people who buy may be more likely to take the ttc primarily and their cars secondary. Downtown is obviously the ideal, pedestrian first, transit second, car third. All that being said I believe Eglinton buyers will be considerably different than sheppard condo buyers making them more like their downtown neighbours then their uptown neighbours.

Residential developments don't generate much transit usage, regardless of where they're located. Commercial developments generate far more transit usage than residential developments of the same size.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Refer those points to AndrewPMK should he return from the dead, not me.

I don't think Eglinton will reach capacity in my lifetime. I think it will exceed opening day and 2031 ridership projections.

On opening day, when it's moving only 1,000 persons per hour, we'll collectively exclaim, "oh no, we did it again!", and hang our heads in shame

 

[ehlow]

Shifting it north* I believe.

I'm skeptical because they are moving the platform north to an unused portion of the station that was built in 1954 alongside the rest of the station. The new platform will have the same dimensions as the present one.

Eglinton Crosstown construction would have been the perfect opportunity to pursue a Spanish Solution to the station. It will be much trickier (and costlier) to upgrade the station in the future when the Crosstown is in service and the TTC Bus Bay lands are developed into condos and office towers. I fear we are recreating the Bloor-Yonge station upgrade predicament at Eglinton.

This is related to what I said above regarding the difficulty of conversions & upgrades to existing lines. Shutting down existing stations or parts of the Yonge line for years is not practical or desirable.

It's likely also insanely expensive if it's even possible to add another platform to Eglinton. You'd be better off spending that money on: speeding up ATC installation on Yonge if possible, starting ATC installation on Bloor, and platform doors.

 

[nfitz]

Shifting it north* I believe.

Yes.

I'm skeptical because they are moving the platform north to an unused portion of the station that was built in 1954 alongside the rest of the station. The new platform will have the same dimensions as the present one.

I'm concerned.

Eglinton Crosstown construction would have been the perfect opportunity to pursue a Spanish Solution to the station.

If there isn't space with the various foundations to put in a second platform, how would there be place to build a second AND a third?

And why not simply say 3 platforms instead of "Spanish solution"?

If the space is as limited as they say, I'd think the solution would be to lengthen the platform even further north (move some track if necessary) and simply have the northbound platform and southbound platform end-to-end instead of side-by-side.

 

[ehlow]

Yes.

If there isn't space with the various foundations to put in a second platform, how would there be place to build a second AND a third?

Exactly this seems very impractical for an existing station. If you're building a new subway station then go ahead and put 3 platforms, but expanding an existing one that happens to be one of the busiest in the system at one of the most built-up intersections? Trying to do that while keeping it running? Good luck with that. That sounds like it would cost more than building a brand new subway line (possibly exaggerating, but it would be insanely expensive).

And why not simply say 3 platforms instead of "Spanish solution"?

People looove saying "Spanish solution" and apparently it's the solution to everything. Spanish solution this, spanish solution that, every station should be converted to Spanish solution apparently. It's the solution!

The way transit enthusiasts talk, they'd like to shut down our whole subway for 10 years, rebuild everything, then restart the whole city. Sometimes you have to make due with what you have and add to it.

 

[sixrings]

Residential developments don't generate much transit usage, regardless of where they're located. Commercial developments generate far more transit usage than residential developments of the same size.

No debate there but transit riders have to come from somewhere and having a place beside a line advocates usage more than a house disconnected from immediate access.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

People looove saying "Spanish solution" and apparently it's the solution to everything. Spanish solution this, spanish solution that, every station should be converted to Spanish solution apparently. It's the solution!

The way transit enthusiasts talk, they'd like to shut down our whole subway for 10 years, rebuild everything, then restart the whole city. Sometimes you have to make due with what you have and add to it.

Well sir, there's nothing like a genuine, bonafide, electrified, tri-platform, Spanish solution.

(Don't disappoint me fellow UTers; you know what to do next )

 

[ehlow]

Well sir, there's nothing like a genuine, bonafide, electrified, tri-platform, Spanish solution.

(Don't disappoint me fellow UTers; you know what to do next )

Skytrain = monorail

 

[adHominem]

The ring came off my pudding can!

 

[dunkalunk]

The ring came off my pudding can!

Take my pen-knife my good man!

 

[TheTigerMaster]

I swear it's Toronto's only choice,
THROW UP YOUR HANDS AND RAISE YOUR VOICE!

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Did UT just go full circlejerk?

 

[innsertnamehere]

have you never seen it go full circle jerk? lots of lightheared humour sprinkled in with the otherwise typically serious discussions on the forum..

 

[salsa]

They don't generate much usage. The City is pushing to preserve the employment lands on Eglinton to maximize the return on our investment.

Interesting that you bring this up, because a recent Globe and Mail article talks about exactly that.

 

[Neil]

I find that most things with a nationality in their name are not complimentary. e.g. French drain, Dutch oven, Egyption shower, Spanish solution...