News   GLOBAL  |  Apr 02, 2020
 11K     0 
News   GLOBAL  |  Apr 01, 2020
 43K     0 
News   GLOBAL  |  Apr 01, 2020
 6.9K     0 
Decided to take a ride on line 5 today, and you’re right the whole line was just moist, I had to do this awkward penguin walk on the wet floors
Metrolinx/Crosslinx both been living under a rock. It seems like water drainage, humidity and condensation are foreign concepts to them. Can't blame them when those ML folks don't understand a 6.5m diameter TBM does not produce a 6.5m tunnel after installing tunnel liners. They barely squeeze those trains in. Can't squeeze more concept in them.
 
I think it's more related to condensation from the "passive heating/cooling", no? Although water intrusion definitely does seem to be an issue.
It is condensation. The stations are bone dry if the humidity is lower, as it was two days ago.

But it doesn't change the fact that the floor tiles were a spectacularly poor choice with even the slightest bit of moisture..

Dan
 
It is condensation. The stations are bone dry if the humidity is lower, as it was two days ago.

But it doesn't change the fact that the floor tiles were a spectacularly poor choice with even the slightest bit of moisture..

Dan
How many injuries and resulting court cases will it take before ML decides to replace the floor tiles?
 
Doug Ford can solve it: he just has to announce that these are the replacement for the Ontario Place water park and have staff start handing out inflatable rings.
shut down the eglinton crosstown and replace it with an 19km long lazy river... grab a floatie and sleep down to your stop, no need to wait for the next train!
 
shut down the eglinton crosstown and replace it with an 19km long lazy river... grab a floatie and sleep down to your stop, no need to wait for the next train!
Oh, and Steam Whistle would purchase exclusive branding and advertising rights for the Steam Whistle Line 5 Eglinton Lazy River!

Pre-evidence:

1781211277282.jpeg

Don Valley Station; source: @Edward Skira

Oh, and it would have the same dirty water (actually stale beer) just like Duff Gardens:


Doug Ford would love this!

😂😂😂
 
It’s wonderful that Line 5 is operational, but the design, construction and maintenance of these station just feels like complete amateur hour. I’m talking about everything from the depth of stations and poor layouts, to the water intrusion issue, the illegible maps and wayfinding, the poor accessibility, escalators and elevators out of order, dirty stations (the white walls are already looking filthy in many places). We even have entire entrances out of order.

I think that if this is what we can expect with the Ontario Line, we could be in big trouble. Metrolinx can get away with these issues with Line 5, becuase it’s suburban and relatively low ridership, but I don’t how the Ontario Line will perform with something like 200,000 people per day, if we can expect the stations to be this poorly designed, built and maintained. High ridership has a way of stress testing poor design.

It’s only been a few months, but I kind of get the impression that the TTC does a better job of maintaining the decade old TYSSE, than Metrolinx does with the 5 month old Crosstown. I’m nervous about what the condition of Line 5 will be in a decade.

It doesn’t help that Metrolinx doesn’t really engage in public communication, so who knows if they ever intend to fix these issues.
 
Last edited:
It’s wonderful that Line 5 is operational, but the design, construction and maintenance of these station just feels like complete amateur hour. I’m talking about everything from the depth of stations and poor layouts, to the water intrusion issue, the illegible maps and wayfinding, the poor accessibility, escalators and elevators out of order, dirty stations (the white walls are already looking filthy in many places).

I think that if this is what we can expect with the Ontario Line, we could be in big trouble. Metrolinx can get away with these issues with Line 5, becuase it’s suburban and relatively low ridership, but I don’t how the Ontario Line will perform with something like 200,000 people per day, if we can expect the stations to be this poorly designed, built and maintained.

It’s only been a few months, but I kind of get the impression that the TTC does a better job of maintaining the decade old TYSSE, than Metrolinx does with the 5 month old Crosstown. I’m nervous about what the condition of Line 5 will be in a decade.

It doesn’t help that Metrolinx doesn’t really engage in public communication, so who knows if they ever intend to fix these issues.
I really don’t understand how Union Station is so nice now but the condition of the Crosstown seems to poor in comparison. You’d think Metrolinx would be better at station maintenance given their experience with GO Transit.
 
When talking to normies about the Crosstown, their #1 complaint over and over again is station depth and layout. I’ve had multiple people bring it up to me unprompted.
My memory of Copenhagen's M3 line was that all/most stations use the same template/layout (this blog seems to confirm it) and it made using the system easier. Wish we did the same with Line 5, or Line 3 (or maybe that's the plan... I dunno). Even the recently highlighted issue with accessibility is partly addressed by doing this, reducing the cognitive burden for those with visual impairments only deal with remembering one layout for the stations, and everyone else benefits from it too.
 
It’s wonderful that Line 5 is operational, but the design, construction and maintenance of these station just feels like complete amateur hour. I’m talking about everything from the depth of stations and poor layouts, to the water intrusion issue, the illegible maps and wayfinding, the poor accessibility, escalators and elevators out of order, dirty stations (the white walls are already looking filthy in many places). We even have entire entrances out of order.

I think that if this is what we can expect with the Ontario Line, we could be in big trouble. Metrolinx can get away with these issues with Line 5, becuase it’s suburban and relatively low ridership, but I don’t how the Ontario Line will perform with something like 200,000 people per day, if we can expect the stations to be this poorly designed, built and maintained. High ridership has a way of stress testing poor design.

It’s only been a few months, but I kind of get the impression that the TTC does a better job of maintaining the decade old TYSSE, than Metrolinx does with the 5 month old Crosstown. I’m nervous about what the condition of Line 5 will be in a decade.

It doesn’t help that Metrolinx doesn’t really engage in public communication, so who knows if they ever intend to fix these issues.

Meritocracy is racist / x-ist / a tool of the wealthy elite apparently. That Metrolinx's woes have anything to do with a lack of meritocracy is a bigoted notion apparently.

I'm also sick of hearing the excuses that X, Y, Z project were one of Metrolinx's first projects and therefore screw ups are just part of the learning process, part of the process to build institutional knowledge.

Where were the comparable screw ups in Copenhagen? In Sydney? We're already seeing the same questionable design choices on the Ontario Line: a sore lack of escalator and elevator redundancy.
 
Last edited:
It’s good that they have 2 direction escalators to descend to those depths. Would be a pain if it were like those 20th Century stations with their escalator options.
 

Back
Top