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There are 3-5 accounts on here that are utterly poisoning the discourse. The Line 6 thread has been unreadable for its unrelenting nihilism and negativity for some time now. Line 5 hasn't opened, and it's already happening here too.

Is Line 5 imperfect? Of course. Lots of criticism is merited. But there is a pocket of users on here that are assailing the line for seemingly no reason except to 1) provoke? rage bait? or 2) to make anyone that expresses even a modicum of excitement feel like shit.

Enough already! Do you know how awful you have to be to make the Reddit threads seem fair and balanced? Have some self restraint, or mods: please step in more aggressively, or the rest of us should find somewhere else to talk about this project.
There needs to be more negativity around this line so the TTC/City can address the actual problems on both lines: The dumb streetcar operating procedures that have been implemented.

Thankfully the TTC won't be the operator for the Ontario Line...
 
TTC just updated the www.ttc.ca/line5 page to include more information. It also posted a video of Line 5 to it's Instagram. TTC put on the Line 5 page that it feels the situation around Line 5 is ''different'' from the opening of Line 6 as it's rationale for why there won't be an opening ceremony for Line 5 on Sunday, or until the phased opening is finished.

''We are taking a different approach to the opening of Line 5. With LRT service beginning immediately, our priority is ensuring a smooth and reliable start for customers and staff. While we hosted a public celebration for Line 6 due to the nature and timing of that launch, the circumstances surrounding the opening of Line 5 are different, and our focus is on operational readiness.
That said, we are excited to welcome riders onto the new line and will continue to highlight the benefits of Line 5 through ongoing communications and customer focused activities''.

It also put this, which people should definitely test with stopwatches on Sunday:

''A Line 5 Eglinton LRT trip between Mount Dennis and Kennedy stations will take approximately 52 to 54 minutes''.
 
There are 3-5 accounts on here that are utterly poisoning the discourse. The Line 6 thread has been unreadable for its unrelenting nihilism and negativity for some time now. Line 5 hasn't opened, and it's already happening here too.

Is Line 5 imperfect? Of course. Lots of criticism is merited. But there is a pocket of users on here that are assailing the line for seemingly no reason except to 1) provoke? rage bait? or 2) to make anyone that expresses even a modicum of excitement feel like shit.

Enough already! Do you know how awful you have to be to make the Reddit threads seem fair and balanced? Have some self restraint, or mods: please step in more aggressively, or the rest of us should find somewhere else to talk about this project.
I I'm really excited for the crosstown and will be riding it Sunday, but as this line has been complete for like 2 years and there is no construction updates, I mostly come here for the cynicism and negativity to sooth myself until the line opens.
 
TTC just updated the www.ttc.ca/line5 page to include more information. It also posted a video of Line 5 to it's Instagram. TTC put on the Line 5 page that it feels the situation around Line 5 is ''different'' from the opening of Line 6 as it's rationale for why there won't be an opening ceremony for Line 5 on Sunday, or until the phased opening is finished.
They know its going to be a disaster upon opening, they're trying to be muted about it so much that many people probably wont even be aware that Line 5 has opened when they wait for their usual 34 bus.

Also, I don't understand the reason for the 60 km/h cap in the tunnelled section. Trains have been testing underground for probably 5 years now. How much longer of a "testing" period is needed?

We could easily reach March and the TTC doesn't raise the tunnel cap because of "safety" issues.

The TTC was okay with running Line 3 with virtually no track inspections/maintenance for decades, and now they suddenly overcorrect too hard by putting RSZs on Line 1/2 because tracks are millimetres out of spec...
 
That's 3 different time ranges in just over 24 hours:
''A Line 5 Eglinton LRT trip between Mount Dennis and Kennedy stations will take approximately 52 to 54 minutes''. [https://www.ttc.ca/riding-the-ttc/Line-5-Eglinton]

Lali: so the runtime from end to end on LRT is around 55 to 59 minutes end to end. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubl9Eki5tVI]

"When full service begins, trains are expected to run until 1:30 a.m. daily, with end‑to‑end travel times of approximately 50–55 minutes."

Those 3 time ranges cannot all be true. End‑to‑end travel times are expected to drop significantly after stronger TSP is implemented, and at least decrease slightly when operations become more aggressive over time (60--->88km/h speed limit, accel/braking etc.) For this Sunday, I am predicting end-to-end travel times in the 55-75 minutes range, with the average above 60 minutes.
Also, I don't understand the reason for the 60 km/h cap in the tunnelled section. Trains have been testing underground for probably 5 years now. How much longer of a "testing" period is needed?
It's to prevent injuries due to sudden unintended emergency braking.
 
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Also, I don't understand the reason for the 60 km/h cap in the tunnelled section. Trains have been testing underground for probably 5 years now. How much longer of a "testing" period is needed?
There is an ongoing issue with the trains when they operate over 60. I eluded to it a few pages back. Still hesitant to give details, but now I’m sure it will eventually be publicized.
 
Also, I don't understand the reason for the 60 km/h cap in the tunnelled section. Trains have been testing underground for probably 5 years now. How much longer of a "testing" period is needed?
A good question. Though the vehicle weights are going to start being significantly heavier on Sunday, so I can see a desire to be a bit careful for a bit, to see if everything is good. It's hard to stick that many sandbags on 24 trains!
 
It's to prevent injuries due to sudden unintended emergency braking.
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I'm looking forward to it, full stop. Cedarvale to Yonge-Eglinton will be 9 minutes, down from 20+ minutes on the bus. It's going to make it so much easier to go there and go north on Yonge by transit. It's going to be a huge quality of life change.

The one piece that I think is going to be really important to continue to put pressure on the city and province is completing the remaining streetscape improvements, including the bike lanes directly on Eglinton and also connecting to Eglinton. They were promised as part of this project and they need to be delivered.
 
Is it like the Alstom problem where if the trains go too fast the bogies get messed up over time and the wheels eventually fall off?
I'm not qualified to say how big of an issue it is. But there is a safety aspect and a maintenance interval aspect that lead them to the temporary speed limit. It does sound temporary.
 
Is it like the Alstom problem where if the trains go too fast the bogies get messed up over time and the wheels eventually fall off?

The glory of low floor LRVs in full display...
I'm not sure why the negativity. We see such operating speeds on these vehicles elsewhere. And they've already said it will be increased to 80 km/hr before the line fully opens.
 

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