[TOtramz]

Based on the images from the latest incident, it doesn't seem like the LRV was damaged in any significant way.
However, do you think there is a realistic chance that serious accidents on the surface section occur so frequently that there are too many vehicles under repair to operate revenue service?

 

[Jago88]

FFS

Selfishly I just want the UP and GO trains stopping at Mount Dennis so want Line 5 opened as quickly as possible but this stuff doesnt bode well

 

[T3G]

Based on the images from the latest incident, it doesn't seem like the LRV was damaged in any significant way.
However, do you think there is a realistic chance that serious accidents on the surface section occur so frequently that there are too many vehicles under repair to operate revenue service?

As realistic of a chance as this happening on the existing streetcar or bus fleet. That is to say, none.

Spare rates are a thing for a reason.

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Would it be prohibitively expensive to put crossing gates at every left turn lane?

 

[Northern Light]

Would it be prohibitively expensive to put crossing gates at every left turn lane?

The cost varies widely, the most obvious impact is the size of the intersection (length of any gates), whether you install dedicated rail warning signals (the norm), but also the style of gates and other factors can contribute.

The range is generally stated as $200,000-$1,000,000.

For a larger intersection like Eglinton, I wouldn't presume a penny under 500k per, and it could be the max.

So...what, something like 15 intersections in the east end? Up to 15M

I would not consider that prohibitive.

The barrier, pun intended, will be the impacts on signal timing, and transit priority.

If the gates don't come down ahead of the trains and hold until they clear the intersections, it will cause substantial delays to the TTC; but if they do, it will mean giving Eglinton more green time at the expense of cross streets.

Where trains (going opposite ways) don't cross the intersection at the same time, (which would be most of the time), the time impacts on traffic could be substantial.

 

[micheal_can]

What about spike strips?

Actually, what would be great is to have the police sitting near each intersection on a rotating basis for the time it is in testing mode and start ticketing drivers that want to ignore the LRVs. By the time it opens, the drivers will know it is running.

 

[Aplus23]

FFS

Selfishly I just want the UP and GO trains stopping at Mount Dennis so want Line 5 opened as quickly as possible but this stuff doesnt bode well

What go line is that station on

 

[nfitz]

What go line is that station on

Kitchener - between Weston and Bloor. They've also built a new UP platform there, and I think the current plan is that all UP trains will stop here in addition to the two other stops.

 

[mburrrrr]

That's also nowhere near the underground section. Roughly halfway between the DVP and Vic Park, and 1.5km west of the previous incident. And there isn't like a pedestrian passage underground (sometimes called subway) around either.

If the fire department is responding, it doesn't automatically mean there was a fire right? It would be really bad if now line 5 had a fire a few months after finch LRT did.

edit: https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/arti...rt-train-involved-in-collision-in-north-york/
It was a crash

It looks like the paint was scratched on 6273. (New or old scratch?) Picture taken at 4:47 pm yesterday. I’m not sure what happened. There is only one legal turn/crossing at this intersection. NB Credit Union to WB Eglinton.
Picture looking south from Swift Dr.

 

[nfitz]

If the fire department is responding, it doesn't automatically mean there was a fire right? It would be really bad if now line 5 had a fire a few months after finch LRT did.

edit: https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/arti...rt-train-involved-in-collision-in-north-york/
It was a crash

That seems to be what the Toronto Fire 7-vehicle response was about. But it is a bit odd for a relatively minor collision. Perhaps 9-1-1 didn't fully understand what had happened. Perhaps someone said there was a collision between a subway train and a car ... Better safe than sorry.

Toronto Fire is often the first responder for medical emergencies, as they have a lot of excess capacity at times (for good reason!), so dealing with smaller emergency calls is a good use of their time. And they can often get their quicker than paramedics, and have resuscitation gear, etc., until the person can be transported. And there's a level of physical strength that can be useful in a medical emergency as well, which isn't as common with paramedics. I've seen paramedics arrive shortly after Toronto Fire for a strictly medical emergency before, and Toronto Fire left once the patient was being prepped for transport.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

That seems to be what the Toronto Fire 7-vehicle response was about. But it is a bit odd for a relatively minor collision. Perhaps 9-1-1 didn't fully understand what had happened. Perhaps someone said there was a collision between a subway train and a car ... Better safe than sorry.

Toronto Fire is often the first responder for medical emergencies, as they have a lot of excess capacity at times (for good reason!), so dealing with smaller emergency calls is a good use of their time. And they can often get their quicker than paramedics, and have resuscitation gear, etc., until the person can be transported. And there's a level of physical strength that can be useful in a medical emergency as well, which isn't as common with paramedics. I've seen paramedics arrive shortly after Toronto Fire for a strictly medical emergency before, and Toronto Fire left once the patient was being prepped for transport.

They may have to toll the LRV to the nearest Collision Reporting Centre.

After all, a light rail vehicle is a "vehicle" under the MTO regulations, like streetcars were since 1990. Before 1990 regulation change, it would be considered a "street railway", and as a "railway", it would not only have the right-of-way and the other vehicle would automatically be at fault,

But seriously, the police would have to come to the scene, since the LRV cannot go to the Collision Reporting Centre.

 

[toraerach]

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You can really see in this photo how the grey/white colour scheme blends into the streetscape. I really wish they'd gone with something more colourful for aesthetic reasons, but I wonder if there might have been a road safety benefit as well (not that the red on our streetcars prevents accidents completely).

 

[TropicalPenguin]

Are there plans to paint these trains in the same TTC colourway, which we see on the streetcars?

 

[drum118]

Are there plans to paint these trains in the same TTC colourway, which we see on the streetcars?

No as ML own the cars and want their own colours to keep them separate from other systems colours. Finch and Hurontario cars are the same colour as Eglinton.

TTC is only operates the line under a 5 year contract at this time in place of the original of having X doing it as per the bid contract track Same goes for Finch with Hurontario going with X.

 

[zang]

It looks like the paint was scratched on 6273. (New or old scratch?) Picture taken at 4:47 pm yesterday. I’m not sure what happened. There is only one legal turn/crossing at this intersection. NB Credit Union to WB Eglinton.

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