[Steve X]

Was Glencairn that bad? It seemed okay the rare morning I was up that way.

I doubt it would be any more than AM peak and PM peak anyhow.

If everything was running smoothly that morning, then it wouldn't be that bad. When a train that is suppose to fit between two trains from "Downsview" is late cause it got stuck, they'll sometimes wait and hold a train at Lawrence West for a couple minutes.

 

[smallspy]

Hasn't there been talk of operationally short-turning some (peak?) trains at Laird.

At an unknown future date, yes. They have short-turned some in testing service in order to train the ops and also to re-sequence trains, but for the first several years all scheduled service will operate end-to-end.

Somehow I highly doubt TTC lines the short turn idea. They will just mess it up and make the whole line run like a mess. When they had the line 1 short turn at Glencarin, they only did it in the morning.

What do you mean "when"? It happens every single weekday morning from the beginning of September to the end of June.

And no, it absolutely, positively was not a mess - the service runs quite fine through that section, in fact. For all of the complaints about the TTC's service - and quite rightly so - this was the one thing that consistently runs pretty smoothly.

Dan

 

[nfitz]

If everything was running smoothly that morning, then it wouldn't be that bad. When a train that is suppose to fit between two trains from "Downsview" is late cause it got stuck, they'll sometimes wait and hold a train at Lawrence West for a couple minutes.

You see enough 1- or 2-minute holds on Line 2. Typically at Chester. I'd have thought with automation they could just time them into the whole run a bit more seamlessly though.

And no, it absolutely, positively was not a mess - the service runs quite fine through that section, in fact.

Are you referring to current gap trains? Or the many years (decades) of short-turns at Glencairn before the TYSSE opened?[

 

[jmi22]

New story on the Crosstown stations in Little Jamaica, and the shifts to bus service planned for opening

Line 5: Crosstown Stations to Transform Little Jamaica Accessibility | UrbanToronto

In Little Jamaica, one of Toronto’s most culturally vibrant areas, an unprecedented level of mobility is set to arrive with the long-delayed opening of Eglinton Line 5. Within the area's boundaries, four rapid transit stations are expected to open later this year. Soon, at any of the area’s...

urbantoronto.ca

 

[smallspy]

Are you referring to current gap trains? Or the many years (decades) of short-turns at Glencairn before the TYSSE opened?[

The long-running morning short turn trains, first to St. Clair West and more recently to Glencairn.

Dan

 

[crs1026]

From the Toronto Fire Incident page. Don't know the details, but this ain't Line 1 territory.

- Paul

 

[johntauren]

From the Toronto Fire Incident page. Don't know the details, but this ain't Line 1 territory.

- Paul

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That's also nowhere near the underground section. Roughly halfway between the DVP and Vic Park, and 1.5km west of the previous incident. And there isn't like a pedestrian passage underground (sometimes called subway) around either.

 

[TOtramz]

From the Toronto Fire Incident page. Don't know the details, but this ain't Line 1 territory.

- Paul

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If the fire department is responding, it doesn't automatically mean there was a fire right? It would be really bad if now line 5 had a fire a few months after finch LRT did.

edit: https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/arti...rt-train-involved-in-collision-in-north-york/
It was a crash

 

[Thaboss]

If the fire department is responding, it doesn't automatically mean there was a fire right? It would be really bad if now line 5 had a fire a few months after finch LRT did.

edit: https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/arti...rt-train-involved-in-collision-in-north-york/
It was a crash

Oh boy...and so it begins..

I don't even know what to say or think about this anymore..

 

[TOtramz]

Based on the images from the latest incident, it doesn't seem like the LRV was damaged in any significant way.
However, do you think there is a realistic chance that serious accidents on the surface section occur so frequently that there are too many vehicles under repair to operate revenue service?

 

[Jago88]

FFS

Selfishly I just want the UP and GO trains stopping at Mount Dennis so want Line 5 opened as quickly as possible but this stuff doesnt bode well

 

[T3G]

Based on the images from the latest incident, it doesn't seem like the LRV was damaged in any significant way.
However, do you think there is a realistic chance that serious accidents on the surface section occur so frequently that there are too many vehicles under repair to operate revenue service?

As realistic of a chance as this happening on the existing streetcar or bus fleet. That is to say, none.

Spare rates are a thing for a reason.

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Would it be prohibitively expensive to put crossing gates at every left turn lane?

 

[Northern Light]

Would it be prohibitively expensive to put crossing gates at every left turn lane?

The cost varies widely, the most obvious impact is the size of the intersection (length of any gates), whether you install dedicated rail warning signals (the norm), but also the style of gates and other factors can contribute.

The range is generally stated as $200,000-$1,000,000.

For a larger intersection like Eglinton, I wouldn't presume a penny under 500k per, and it could be the max.

So...what, something like 15 intersections in the east end? Up to 15M

I would not consider that prohibitive.

The barrier, pun intended, will be the impacts on signal timing, and transit priority.

If the gates don't come down ahead of the trains and hold until they clear the intersections, it will cause substantial delays to the TTC; but if they do, it will mean giving Eglinton more green time at the expense of cross streets.

Where trains (going opposite ways) don't cross the intersection at the same time, (which would be most of the time), the time impacts on traffic could be substantial.

 

[micheal_can]

What about spike strips?

Actually, what would be great is to have the police sitting near each intersection on a rotating basis for the time it is in testing mode and start ticketing drivers that want to ignore the LRVs. By the time it opens, the drivers will know it is running.