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Allandale25 said:
This article specifically says Lindsay said they are 10 years old, so that would be 2015.

toronto.citynews.ca

Eglinton Crosstown LRT vehicle 'availability and reliability' latest issue to face line before launch

Metrolinx CEO Michael Lindsay said crews are figuring out the 'maintenance profile' of the 10-year-old Eglinton Crosstown LRT vehicles.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca
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They are not 10 years old, he's exaggerating for sure. As of early 2019, they only had a small handful of LRVs.

As per CPTDB:
"The first LRV was expected to be delivered in November, with another five delivered by February 2019.[13] Metrolinx received the first LRV in January 2019, and by May, had taken delivery of six. On May 22, 2019, Metrolinx held a media event to showcase the new LRVs (unit 6201 was featured)."

I think the majority of the vehicles were delivered between 2019-2021.
 
duffo said:
They are not 10 years old, he's exaggerating for sure. As of early 2019, they only had a small handful of LRVs.

As per CPTDB:
"The first LRV was expected to be delivered in November, with another five delivered by February 2019.[13] Metrolinx received the first LRV in January 2019, and by May, had taken delivery of six. On May 22, 2019, Metrolinx held a media event to showcase the new LRVs (unit 6201 was featured)."

I think the majority of the vehicles were delivered between 2019-2021.
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At that time, we were worried that Toronto would not be getting the whole fleet of light rail cars in time for the opening of Line 5 in 2020. Turned out the last delivery of the Flexity Freedom car did not matter.
 
Yeah, I don't buy that 10 year figure, its probably just a generalization. It sounds like whst you'd expect, the TTC is stress testing everything and ensuring it works so thst it can run operationally well and safely. Still, there just seems like theres been a lot of redundancy behind the scenes that's hobbled the opening of this...alongside a host of other things.
 
duffo said:
They are not 10 years old, he's exaggerating for sure. As of early 2019, they only had a small handful of LRVs.

As per CPTDB:
"The first LRV was expected to be delivered in November, with another five delivered by February 2019.[13] Metrolinx received the first LRV in January 2019, and by May, had taken delivery of six. On May 22, 2019, Metrolinx held a media event to showcase the new LRVs (unit 6201 was featured)."

I think the majority of the vehicles were delivered between 2019-2021.
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Maybe he means the first one. This was November 27, 2016 in Thunday Bay when the pilot vehicle was moved out of the plant. Any insights @smallspy ?

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APTA-2048 said:
Perhaps that’s the prototype LRV that’s still in Millhaven and not part of the Crosstown fleet?
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@drum118 any insights?

There is a thread that may have some delivery history. It hasn't been updated in a few years for the Crosstown LRVs, though.

Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs

I am loathe to defend Metrolinx as I find their methods of doing just about anything deeply detestable, but why is their picking of a vehicle that was already in use a problem? Isn't that the advantage of building LRTs to standard gauge and voltage ratings, that they can grab something off the...
toronto.skyrisecities.com toronto.skyrisecities.com
 
APTA-2048 said:
Perhaps that’s the prototype LRV that’s still in Millhaven and not part of the Crosstown fleet?
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I'll just add that I wonder how long it was between the prototype and next vehicle. I think the Waterloo LRVs were being made at the same time and it's the same model.
 
Allandale25 said:
@drum118 any insights?

There is a thread that may have some delivery history. It hasn't been updated in a few years for the Crosstown LRVs, though.

Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs

I am loathe to defend Metrolinx as I find their methods of doing just about anything deeply detestable, but why is their picking of a vehicle that was already in use a problem? Isn't that the advantage of building LRTs to standard gauge and voltage ratings, that they can grab something off the...
toronto.skyrisecities.com toronto.skyrisecities.com
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From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/bombardier-court-injunction-1.3976771
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Not sure if test car here means prototype or first production car.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
At that time, we were worried that Toronto would not be getting the whole fleet of light rail cars in time for the opening of Line 5 in 2020. Turned out the last delivery of the Flexity Freedom car did not matter.
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And they spent a few hundred million to switch part of the LRV order to Alstom, out of a self imposed panic to need to be seen to do something about the delays with the TTC cars.
 
T3G said:
???

How can trains that were built from 2018-2021 and have never been used in revenue service be "really" old?

??????
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ML claims they are 10 years old. BBD did store them for years cause there wasn’t a yard to deliver to till 2019. So the oldest cars could be that old.
 
I used to joke about the cars outlasting their warranties and useful life — turns out, it wasn’t a joke after all.. :(:mad:
 
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