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Let's say it's 40 minutes end to end, this will give an average speed of 28.5km/h for the entire line. This means that one train will take 1 hour 20 minutes to complete one roundtrip journey. Having all 28 trains running at the same time, it will give an hourly throughput at any given station of 21 trains yielding a frequency of 2 minutes 51 seconds. Round it up to 3 minutes to account for other factors. Pretty respectable if you think about it.

Max capacity at opening day of roughly 8,000 pphpd!

Please feel free to correct my math if there are any errors!
Assuming that every 3 minutes is correct - that's 20 trains an hour. I was using 500 peak capacity for a 3-car train. So about 333 for a 2-car train. That's closer to about 6,670 pphpd. Crush capacity would be higher, but then the dwell times increase, and they can't do as quickly end to end.

The stated capacity at the planned service level in the AM peak is in fact only 75% of this, a little under 6000.
Stated where?

Though based on all our assumptions about capacity and travel time, that gives 18 trains an hour. One every 3 minutes 20 seconds.

At 11pm this past evening, there was not a single train in sight.
That sounds like normal TTC service to me! 🤣
 
Couldn’t snag a picture but man the glass at the outdoor stations looks like hell! They are trying to take the protective coatings off but it’s obviously been baked on by the sun siting there for how many years…will try to get a pic next time I’m in the area.
 
Couldn’t snag a picture but man the glass at the outdoor stations looks like hell! They are trying to take the protective coatings off but it’s obviously been baked on by the sun siting there for how many years…will try to get a pic next time I’m in the area.
Dont worry at least it's going to add a certain "je ne sais quoi" to the overall decor of the line, because those shelters are already functionally useless and offer virtually no protection from the elements.
 
Having 2 stations on the Ontario line called Don Valley gives us a 'Roughriders vs Roughriders' situation 😂😂
There is a simple fix. The Don Valley station isn't actually at or in its namesake valley, so they should change its name again, and we could have 2 stations: Don Valley (was East Harbour), and Not Don Valley.
 
The Don Valley station isn't actually at or in its namesake valley ...
The station is at the Science Centre (literally there's an exit in the parking lot. Much of the Science Centre is in the Don Valley.

Ergo Don Valley station is at or near the Don Valley.
 
I had to use the waybackmachine to look up the factsheet as the website is now rerouting elsewhere.

View attachment 659559

Let's say it's 40 minutes end to end, this will give an average speed of 28.5km/h for the entire line. This means that one train will take 1 hour 20 minutes to complete one roundtrip journey. Having all 28 trains running at the same time, it will give an hourly throughput at any given station of 21 trains yielding a frequency of 2 minutes 51 seconds. Round it up to 3 minutes to account for other factors. Pretty respectable if you think about it.

Max capacity at opening day of roughly 8,000 pphpd!

Please feel free to correct my math if there are any errors!
The table is kind of confusing (these are not end to end times, or parts of an end to end trip) but the end to end journey in test takes less than an hour but quite a bit more than 40 minutes - most of the slowdown is unsurprisingly because of slow surface ops. Call it ~50 mins.
 
The station is at the Science Centre (literally there's an exit in the parking lot. Much of the Science Centre is in the Don Valley.

Ergo Don Valley station is at or near the Don Valley.
You do realize you're arguing against my set-up to my smartass quip. No fair!
(sings)
Oh the train station's connected to the... secondary exit
The secondary exit's connected to the... science centre
The science centre's connected to the... parking lot
The parking lot's connected to the... driveway
The driveway's connected to the... Don Valley
The Don Valley's connected to... Lake Ontario
Lake Ontario's connected to the... St. Lawrence Seaway
etc.
I'm in a silly mood right now.
 
Item - 2025.TTC6.14 to be considered by the Toronto Transit Commission board on June 23, 2025. Considered "confidential".

See https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.TTC6.14

TTC6.14 - Provincial LRT Program - Line 5 Eglinton Update​


Consideration Type: ACTION

Confidential Attachment - This report contains information explicitly supplied in confidence to the City or local board by Canada, a province or territory or a Crown agency of any of them.​


Origin​


(June 23, 2025) Report from the Interim Chief Executive Officer

Recommendations​


It is recommended that the TTC Board:

1. Receive this report for information.

2. Authorize that the information contained in Confidential Attachment 1 remain confidential, as it contains information supplied in confidence to the TTC by a Crown agency, Metrolinx.

Summary​


The TTC, Metrolinx and Crosslinx Transit Solution continue to work together to get Line 5 ready for revenue service. On June 16, 2025, train operations were transferred into the TTC’s Transit Control Centre from a temporary control centre as testing, training and construction continue. There are, however, still more phases and milestones to be safely completed before final handover to the TTC occurs.

Handover comes only after substantial completion is achieved, which requires that the Project's Independent Certifier has certified that CTS has demonstrated the successful delivery of Line 5 in accordance with the requirements set out in its Project Agreement.

Financial Impact​


The Ontario-Toronto New Deal Agreement, approved by City Council on December 13, 2023, included the financial support provided from the Province to the City under the terms of the New Deal for Operating Support ($330 million over three years) for the provincially owned Line 5 (Eglinton Crosstown LRT) and Line 6 (Finch West LRT). Funding will support mobilization activities leading up to the revenue service date as well as operating and maintenance costs once the lines enter revenue service, which includes labour costs for staff to operate the lines and non-labour costs, such as traction power, utilities, and maintenance through a third-party contract. This Agreement provides provincial funding support for a three-year term commencing in Q1 2024 through to Q1 2027. Future funding for transit operations of these lines will be discussed in the next round of the New Deal discussions with the Province.

Background Information​


(June 23, 2025) Report from the Interim Chief Executive Officer on Provincial LRT Program - Line 5 Eglinton Update
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/ttc/bgrd/backgroundfile-256530.pdf
Attachment 1 - Confidential Information
 

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