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kaptrice said:
The maximum theoretical capacity with the current 2 car trains is about 5,500 pphpd, and the maximum possible operable service is something like 7,600. These are the numbers used for the service levels. The idea of being able to reliably stuff 200, let alone 250, people into one LRV and operate normally is just not compatible with the reality.
Moreover, the ECLRT is a lot faster than the 34 and even more so the 32. Being so fast, it'll be a magnet for traffic.
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I've spoken about this enough in my previous posts, so feel free to look at them and my sources for the 200-250 number and the theoretical capacities of 9,600 pphpd. Unless you have sources to show me to dispute the LRV capacity and theoretical pphpd of Line 5, I don't want to continue this discussion.

I do agree that the LRT will be a magnet for traffic. How much extra traffic on top of the current 2,000 pphpd is to be seen a few months after Line 5 opening.

Richard White said:
The location was also announced this morning and CablePulse24
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Given the location, much less sure of a Line 5 or Line 6 related announcement. :(
 

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So according to metrolinx the line was transfered to the ttc last week. Everyone has been trained on the trains. All 28 lrvs should be running on the line today and are being stressed tested when this is done (no estimate given here), this is followed14 days of testing, then 30 days of revenue service, then a bedding in period (anyone know what that means ?) and if ...if everything goes well a sept opening Date will become reality.

Personally I remain skeptical..the timeline is getting tight. Hopfully I'm wrong
 
Highlights from Michael Lindsay's part of press conference today:
  1. As of today/yesterday all control was handed over to TTC - all movement on the line governed by the TTC at Hillcrest now
  2. Full complement of 28 trains running on the line
  3. All civil infrastructure is complete
  4. All operator driving training complete
  5. Big emphasis on stress testing, a lot of emphasis on avoiding another Ottawa LRT situation
  6. Next steps: formal trial run for 14 days, full revenue service demonstration for 30 days - then have a “bedding in period” to continue with testing (An extra period of testing recommended from the Ottawa LRT report)
Ford: Wont open until its 100% safe

Seems like a big emphasis on getting it right on opening day and avoiding an Ottawa LRT 2.0 on Eglinton
 
Photon54 said:
Highlights from Michael Lindsay's part of press conference today:
  1. As of today/yesterday all control was handed over to TTC - all movement on the line governed by the TTC at Hillcrest now
  2. Full complement of 28 trains running on the line
  3. All civil infrastructure is complete
  4. All operator driving training complete
  5. Big emphasis on stress testing, a lot of emphasis on avoiding another Ottawa LRT situation
  6. Next steps: formal trial run for 14 days, full revenue service demonstration for 30 days - then have a “bedding in period” to continue with testing (An extra period of testing recommended from the Ottawa LRT report)
Ford: Wont open until its 100% safe

Seems like a big emphasis on getting it right on opening day and avoiding an Ottawa LRT 2.0 on Eglinton
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Still "hunting" through Metrolinx websites today (as of 10:30 AM), and NOTHING about handing over to the TTC from Metrolinx. Not very "transparent".
 
What are the headways with 28 trains running? Is that what it will likely be at rush hour when service starts?
 
evandyk said:
What are the headways with 28 trains running? Is that what it will likely be at rush hour when service starts?
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I had to use the waybackmachine to look up the factsheet as the website is now rerouting elsewhere.

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Let's say it's 40 minutes end to end, this will give an average speed of 28.5km/h for the entire line. This means that one train will take 1 hour 20 minutes to complete one roundtrip journey. Having all 28 trains running at the same time, it will give an hourly throughput at any given station of 21 trains yielding a frequency of 2 minutes 51 seconds. Round it up to 3 minutes to account for other factors. Pretty respectable if you think about it.

Max capacity at opening day of roughly 8,000 pphpd!

Please feel free to correct my math if there are any errors!
 
fanoftoronto said:
I had to use the waybackmachine to look up the factsheet as the website is now rerouting elsewhere.
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Let's say it's 40 minutes end to end, this will give an average speed of 28.5km/h for the entire line. This means that one train will take 1 hour 20 minutes to complete one roundtrip journey. Having all 28 trains running at the same time, it will give an hourly throughput at any given station of 21 trains yielding a frequency of 2 minutes 51 seconds. Round it up to 3 minutes to account for other factors. Pretty respectable if you think about it.
Max capacity at opening day of roughly 8,000 pphpd!
Please feel free to correct my math if there are any errors!
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Doing the math for a 26 minute end to end - 52 minute roundtrip @ 44km/h, yields 111.42 seconds, or 1 minute and 51 seconds. About two minutes.
 
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Someone told my wife there would be trains every 90 seconds. I told her I didn't think that was right and it would be more like 2.5 to 3 minutes. Guess my hunch was close enough :)
 
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