[Steve X]

At 11pm this past evening, there was not a single train in sight. There was a maintenance pickup near the DVP ramp intersection what ever they are doing. The bike lane got more used than the tracks. Definitely not doing all day service trials yet.

 

[ThenWhat]

The stated capacity at the planned service level in the AM peak is in fact only 75% of this, a little under 6000.

My best guess based on the discussion and numbers is the frequency of 10 to 12 trains an hour. That's if all trains run end to end. If they start short turning at Laird (skipping the eastern part) then it will be fewer than 10 trains an hour in the above ground section.

I may be wrong of course. We will need some enterprising observers to sit by the tracks and count the trains. Or just trust the official figures as they come out.

 

[dodgeram]

I’m waiting with bated breath for the world’s most expensive, delayed, over-glorified streetcar to open

 

[nfitz]

Let's say it's 40 minutes end to end, this will give an average speed of 28.5km/h for the entire line. This means that one train will take 1 hour 20 minutes to complete one roundtrip journey. Having all 28 trains running at the same time, it will give an hourly throughput at any given station of 21 trains yielding a frequency of 2 minutes 51 seconds. Round it up to 3 minutes to account for other factors. Pretty respectable if you think about it.

Max capacity at opening day of roughly 8,000 pphpd!

Please feel free to correct my math if there are any errors!

Assuming that every 3 minutes is correct - that's 20 trains an hour. I was using 500 peak capacity for a 3-car train. So about 333 for a 2-car train. That's closer to about 6,670 pphpd. Crush capacity would be higher, but then the dwell times increase, and they can't do as quickly end to end.

The stated capacity at the planned service level in the AM peak is in fact only 75% of this, a little under 6000.

Stated where?

Though based on all our assumptions about capacity and travel time, that gives 18 trains an hour. One every 3 minutes 20 seconds.

At 11pm this past evening, there was not a single train in sight.

That sounds like normal TTC service to me!

 

[JBR]

Couldn’t snag a picture but man the glass at the outdoor stations looks like hell! They are trying to take the protective coatings off but it’s obviously been baked on by the sun siting there for how many years…will try to get a pic next time I’m in the area.

 

[Amare]

Couldn’t snag a picture but man the glass at the outdoor stations looks like hell! They are trying to take the protective coatings off but it’s obviously been baked on by the sun siting there for how many years…will try to get a pic next time I’m in the area.

Dont worry at least it's going to add a certain "je ne sais quoi" to the overall decor of the line, because those shelters are already functionally useless and offer virtually no protection from the elements.

 

[TRONto]

They're going to announce that they're changing the name of East Harbour Station to Don Valley Station.

Having 2 stations on the Ontario line called Don Valley gives us a 'Roughriders vs Roughriders' situation

 

[flonicky]

Don't give them ideas or we'll end up with names like "OrangeBlack Station" and "GreenPink Station".

 

[A 6264]

Having 2 stations on the Ontario line called Don Valley gives us a 'Roughriders vs Roughriders' situation

There is a simple fix. The Don Valley station isn't actually at or in its namesake valley, so they should change its name again, and we could have 2 stations: Don Valley (was East Harbour), and Not Don Valley.

 

[nfitz]

The Don Valley station isn't actually at or in its namesake valley ...

The station is at the Science Centre (literally there's an exit in the parking lot. Much of the Science Centre is in the Don Valley.

Ergo Don Valley station is at or near the Don Valley.

 

[Reecemartin]

I had to use the waybackmachine to look up the factsheet as the website is now rerouting elsewhere.

View attachment 659559

Let's say it's 40 minutes end to end, this will give an average speed of 28.5km/h for the entire line. This means that one train will take 1 hour 20 minutes to complete one roundtrip journey. Having all 28 trains running at the same time, it will give an hourly throughput at any given station of 21 trains yielding a frequency of 2 minutes 51 seconds. Round it up to 3 minutes to account for other factors. Pretty respectable if you think about it.

Max capacity at opening day of roughly 8,000 pphpd!

Please feel free to correct my math if there are any errors!

The table is kind of confusing (these are not end to end times, or parts of an end to end trip) but the end to end journey in test takes less than an hour but quite a bit more than 40 minutes - most of the slowdown is unsurprisingly because of slow surface ops. Call it ~50 mins.

 

[A 6264]

The station is at the Science Centre (literally there's an exit in the parking lot. Much of the Science Centre is in the Don Valley.

Ergo Don Valley station is at or near the Don Valley.

You do realize you're arguing against my set-up to my smartass quip. No fair!
(sings)
Oh the train station's connected to the... secondary exit
The secondary exit's connected to the... science centre
The science centre's connected to the... parking lot
The parking lot's connected to the... driveway
The driveway's connected to the... Don Valley
The Don Valley's connected to... Lake Ontario
Lake Ontario's connected to the... St. Lawrence Seaway
etc.
I'm in a silly mood right now.

 

[Steve X]

Don't give them ideas or we'll end up with names like "OrangeBlack Station" and "GreenPink Station".

That’s still better than naming every station after their board members and senior staff.

 

[north-of-anything]

That’s still better than naming every station after their board members and senior staff.

They'd run out of stations before renaming them all.

 

[cplchanb]

seems very quiet on the rail front since TTC took over. are they still working on system migration at hillcrest? they really should start revenue demonstration asap.