hw621
Senior Member
Ok, now this...where would you put your money on?
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nfitz
Superstar
The likeliest dates are the board changes. And the September board starts on August 31. The October board starts on October 12, and the November board starts on November 16.
Certainly the best return is on August 31 or earlier (+1100)! Or on or after November 1 (+800). There must be enough insiders who'd be in the know I'd think that none of the best returns are likely (though I still like August 31). But this would suggest October 12.
hw621
Senior Member
Urbantoronto should start a pool for this...just saying
TOtramz
Active Member
Is it at all likely for there to be signal issues similar to what we had in the past due to the migration to TTC control?
I was optimistic on Tuesday but after hearing nothing is happening I’m fearing the worst.
I was optimistic on Tuesday but after hearing nothing is happening I’m fearing the worst.
hw621
Senior Member
Yeah, people were talking about the TTC taking control like it was a good thing...
cplchanb
Senior Member
shouldnt it be? thats a real milestone towards operations!
hw621
Senior Member
It is a milestone, but let’s not forget the TTC has its own history of issues. People here are quick to criticize Metrolinx, but the TTC isn’t necessarily more efficient — just differently flawed.
crs1026
Superstar
All that gets transferred is the console.....the infrastructure that executes the signalling functions (and that had all the previous glitches) is the same.
Sure, the console tie-in might have glitches also, but much less serious ones. One would hope that the TTC infrastructure and any downstream systems was in some sort of "listener" mode already and has been tested before official cutover.
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A 6264
Active Member
NOBODY should be running a pool about this stuff. I realize you're joking, but if some corrupt official works on the planning board, they could put in a huge bet that the line will be delayed until next year, and then do everything they can to make that happen. (A lot easier than betting on it to open soon, and trying to make that happen.)
A 6264
Active Member
The question isn't what could go wrong differently under TTC control, it's about HOW they deal with the problem. Let's not forget that the TTC has shut down late evening and weekend service on certain subway sections for months or even years at a time, to replace signalling systems. What do they do, replace 4 inches of cable each night?
A 6264
Active Member
Huh? Transfer to the TTC is a milestone, in the sense that it must be done for the new line to ever get opened, but at the same time we shouldn't do it because the TTC aren't good at this? The line should never open, then.
I do agree with your "differently flawed" comment though; see my reply immediately above.
rbt
Senior Member
TTC mises construction timelines but when they open a new line or extension they tend to hit the expected level of service without long closures to fix problems. If TTC is finding and reporting issues, I'd lean toward believing they're actual issues. I don't think TTC will filibuster the opening of the line; they're very motivated to reduce their bus network.
cplchanb
Senior Member
True.
its not the operational aspect we are worried about... its getting TO the operations that has everyone now sweating bullets. we all saw how the YUSE went....
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The problem with the current TTC is the lack of funding for operations. They were forced to defer, defer, and defer on maintenance and shorten the time needed for cleaning or garbage pickup or even tightening of bolts or changing light bulbs. That results in what we have now, having to play catch-up on many things.
Red_Bulmer
Active Member
Just for laughs.
Screenshot of a gambling ad, you can place a bet on the opening date of the Eglinton LRT.
Screenshot of a gambling ad, you can place a bet on the opening date of the Eglinton LRT.