[micheal_can]

At some point though the guideway would need age related rehabilitation.

That unto itself would have been expensive.

The Skytrain in Vancouver is the same thing. They have not had to do that.

 

[T3G]

The SRT was a failure due to not extending it. Had it been extended and had they replaced the rolling stock with new ones, it may still be there, and still be relevant.

Had the SRT been extended, it would have changed nothing about the original alignment of the route. At most what you would have gotten is more people travelling from Malvern, or wherever, to STC or Kennedy. If they wanted to make the original route useful, they shouldn't have built it running through industrial backlots.

The line, fundamentally, was doomed to fail before they even replaced the CLRVs with ICTS, or scrapped the extension plans. It was not a good project from the getgo.

At some point though the guideway would need age related rehabilitation.

That unto itself would have been expensive.

As opposed to other forms of transit, which don't require any kind of preventive maintenance?

 

[micheal_can]

Had the SRT been extended, it would have changed nothing about the original alignment of the route. At most what you would have gotten is more people travelling from Malvern, or wherever, to STC or Kennedy. If they wanted to make the original route useful, they shouldn't have built it running through industrial backlots.

The line, fundamentally, was doomed to fail before they even replaced the CLRVs with ICTS, or scrapped the extension plans. It was not a good project from the getgo.

AsI understand it, the SRT was eventually going to be extended to downtown, negating a relief line. That would have been useful. There were even plans to have one out in Etobicoke.

 

[sixrings]

AsI understand it, the SRT was eventually going to be extended to downtown, negating a relief line. That would have been useful. There were even plans to have one out in Etobicoke.

OG Ontario Line.

 

[micheal_can]

OG Ontario Line.

Yes.
The issue is that it was a new/experimental technology that in the end was not shown to be better than subways.

 

[sixrings]

Yes.
The issue is that it was a new/experimental technology that in the end was not shown to be better than subways.

Well reliability subways almost always win. It’s the gold standard. I’m an advocate for ROW LRTs for cost and other reasons but subways are still king. GO is great but it’s almost like a more local VIA. It’s a different service.

 

[micheal_can]

Well reliability subways almost always win. It’s the gold standard. I’m an advocate for ROW LRTs for cost and other reasons but subways are still king. GO is great but it’s almost like a more local VIA. It’s a different service.

Was it unreliable due to lack of maintenance or due to what it is?
Remember, this is the same system that has been running since the 1980s in Vancouver. And, it has expanded several times.

 

[NIV]

Unfortunately the RT had issues with the curves in the system because it was designed for streetcars. The Mark I trains needed replacement because of their age. The system would have had to be shut down for a couple years to modify the system to allow for the longer Mark IV or Mark V driverless trains.

 

[81-717]

AsI understand it, the SRT was eventually going to be extended to downtown

1st time hearing about that.

There were even plans to have one out in Etobicoke.

Yes, the Etobicoke RT that never happened. But it would've been another standalone line that was never going to be connected to the SRT or the subway network.

 

[Richard White]

Yes, the Etobicoke RT that never happened. But it would've been another standalone line that was never going to be connected to the SRT or the subway network.

It was to be connected to Kipling Station

 

[81-717]

It was to be connected to Kipling Station

In the same way the SRT was "connected" to Kennedy on line 2, yes, but not in terms of track connections.

 

[micheal_can]

1st time hearing about that.

I thought I read it somewhere relating to the Relief Line proposals. I no longer can find any reference to it.

 

[sixrings]

Where was this Kipling RT planned to go. My in laws moved to square one area in the 80s and swear is was all farm land.

 

[NIV]

I believe it was supposed to go to Pearson. They had one side of the upper level roughed in for future streetcar/ RT

 

[sixrings]

I believe it was supposed to go to Pearson. They had one side of the upper level roughed in for future streetcar/ RT

Pretty sure if somehow Mississauga had added a transit tax to every flight out of Pearson Toronto Residents would have in a round about way paid for a subway out to square one by now.