[micheal_can]

Ontario Line north. I don’t doubt this will be a thing.

I don’t count Eglinton because there is not many Mississauga residents there and it’s primary purpose is to get torontonians to their or maybe I should say our airport in Mississauga.

That is why I added that part. There would be lots that do. Hopefully after this extension, an extension to the west can be done.

 

[nfitz]

Hey York region. You have a subway to Vaughan and you’re getting one to Richmond Hill. I think you can let others get some of the pie too.

Markham too.

But they've been asking for subways. Mississauga hasn't. I bet they would have gotten one to Square One by now if they'd actually have asked for one. It's no further from downtown than the under-construction Steeles East station.

 

[sixrings]

That is why I added that part. There would be lots that do. Hopefully after this extension, an extension to the west can be done.

Anyone who considers Eglinton west a Mississauga subway is being disingenuous. It would be like telling Scarborough town centre residents you have a stop at Victoria park so you should be happy. That’s literally the boarder of Scarborough. But at least in that case people live at Victoria park.

 

[81-717]

Ontario Line north

Or the SMSE (Scarborough–Markham Subway Extension)

 

[sixrings]

Or the SMSE (Scarborough–Markham Subway Extension)

Well as a former Scarborough resident to me it made sense to get to Woodside square. But that’s my past bias.

 

[afransen]

With all the GO train lines, why not just shut down all subway lines? That is exactly what your response sounds like.

Fact is, this area needs more transit of all types.

Subway is needed where medium distance travel volumes are high. Between Kipling and MCC, there are very few trips to points in between. If all you are doing is shuttling most passengers from MCC to Kipling, subway is not the best solution. We're getting BRT on Dundas for the more local trips. Upgrade Milton Line for the longer distance trips and we will be in good shape.

 

[81-717]

If all you are doing is shuttling most passengers from MCC to Kipling, subway is not the best solution.

To be fair, the sole purpose of the SRT/SSE is shuttling most passengers between Kennedy and STC.

 

[Dan416]

Isn't all transit shuttling people between points?

 

[sixrings]

Subway is needed where medium distance travel volumes are high. Between Kipling and MCC, there are very few trips to points in between. If all you are doing is shuttling most passengers from MCC to Kipling, subway is not the best solution. We're getting BRT on Dundas for the more local trips. Upgrade Milton Line for the longer distance trips and we will be in good shape.

Dundas isn’t exactly close to MCC. Let’s pretend you do want to take the subway and you live at MCC you are asking people to jump on a lrt that stops at lights. Transfer to a bus that stops at lights and then transfer to a subway. How many stops again are on this route between Hurontario and Kipling?Anyways you’re asking a lot.

BRT is an improvement but there is a reason there are a variety of forms of transit. It’s great to have GO even with it’s limited service but if the cost to get the service all day is the same as a subway then I’d prefer as many transit options as possible. In other words a subway.

 

[micheal_can]

Isn't all transit shuttling people between points?

Now, now, lets not be logical.

If there were GO lines that had subway lines following them their entire route, but having their stations much closer, that area instantly becomes easier to travel along it. Another thing to consider is people live where they live for various reasons.They may move to areas that they would not normally look at if higher order transit existed where it does not now.

 

[T3G]

To be fair, the sole purpose of the SRT/SSE is shuttling most passengers between Kennedy and STC.

And it must be said that the SRT has not been considered a success, and the inane stop spacing on the SSE is one of the many criticisms that have been levied against it.

Isn't all transit shuttling people between points?

By the definition of the words, sure, but in spirit, not really.

The SRT was referred to as a glorified shuttle because there was very little credible reason why anyone would need to use the intermediate stations. You could say that the Yonge line was a shuttle between Finch and Eglinton, but that would leave out all the other possible combinations of journeys that were often made with it.

 

[yurt2022]

Exactly the point. The question implied was, how much had these earlier TBM projects accomplished by their second anniversary?

The answer is - lots, ie far far more than Diggy Scardust has produced.

At this point the issue becomes one of how much is the project now delayed, and how much has the cost risen simply due to deferral of work and changes in financing costs?

- Paul

Keep in mind that station construction can't start until the tunnels have been bored, adding even more delays to the project.

The SRT busway is needed more than ever now.

 

[sixrings]

And it must be said that the SRT has not been considered a success, and the inane stop spacing on the SSE is one of the many criticisms that have been levied against it.


By the definition of the words, sure, but in spirit, not really.

The SRT was referred to as a glorified shuttle because there was very little credible reason why anyone would need to use the intermediate stations. You could say that the Yonge line was a shuttle between Finch and Eglinton, but that would leave out all the other possible combinations of journeys that were often made with it.

Well as a former Scarborough resident who used the midland stop religiously and is familiar with all its shortcomings. It’s technology, it’s route through nowhere, The SRT would still be luxury in comparison to the BRT on dundas as a shuttle service because it didn’t need to contend with lights, it had very limited stop spacing, and because it made it directly to STC. There’s plenty of reasons I hated the hub and spoke system didn’t work in Scarborough but in Mississauga it makes much more sense.

 

[micheal_can]

Well as a former Scarborough resident who used the midland stop religiously and is familiar with all its shortcomings. It’s technology, it’s route through nowhere, The SRT would still be luxury in comparison to the BRT on dundas as a shuttle service because it didn’t need to contend with lights, it had very limited stop spacing, and because it made it directly to STC. There’s plenty of reasons I hated the hub and spoke system didn’t work in Scarborough but in Mississauga it makes much more sense.

The SRT was a failure due to not extending it. Had it been extended and had they replaced the rolling stock with new ones, it may still be there, and still be relevant.

 

[Richard White]

The SRT was a failure due to not extending it. Had it been extended and had they replaced the rolling stock with new ones, it may still be there, and still be relevant.

At some point though the guideway would need age related rehabilitation.

That unto itself would have been expensive.