News   GLOBAL  |  Apr 02, 2020
 10K     0 
News   GLOBAL  |  Apr 01, 2020
 42K     0 
News   GLOBAL  |  Apr 01, 2020
 5.9K     0 

Good to heard it is in development for Toronto. Free rides if you go uphill! 🤣
Would like to see this to get uphill in Hogg's Hollow (Yonge & York Mills)...

Trondheim's Trampe Bicycle Lift. Assistance for cyclists climbing one of Norway's steep hills​

It does snow in Norway, by the way.

Will not happen in Toronto.
 
Last edited:
90% of bikes in use at 8am!?

Bike Angels points in NYC sounds really cool. Not just about monetary rewards but gamification of points and a leaderboard for social cred. Sounds exciting for Toronto.
Hamilton has had a 75 cent bike return feature for a while, it’s actually kind of fun. When I’m downtown, I’ll walk or ride bikes I find back to our hubs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: max
Yesterday was free-bike day but daum thats crazy amount of rides. makes you wonder if bikeshare could be completely free
1749992964250.png
 
Had the opportunity to try out Bike Share's Islands Pilot yesterday...

GPjuvS0WMAAb9Ir.jpg

I think a fundamental question we need to ask ourselves is: what is the purpose of Bikeshare on the Islands? On the mainland its purpose is commuting. One person, one direction, pick up and drop off.

On the Islands....the purpose is leisure, and so the trips are going to be different. In my experience yesterday, the people renting Bikeshares are not people who normally use them for commuting, and are people coming in from further-flung suburbs who view the Bikeshares more like the two-or-four seat rentals already on the island, where they rent them and hold onto them regardless of what they're doing on the island. And it was common for these groups to be four, five, or six people large.

Yesterday's experience was, well, not great. The valets at the stations didn't do anything to support customers. I waited 25+ minutes for a bike at Centre Island as there was no line and no order, and so any person who was bringing a bike back was flocked by half a dozen people waiting for one. Groups would hold onto bikes at the station and not pull them out until they had their required number, and so stations may show "six bikes available" but they were already spoken for with people waiting to take them out. People would return a bike to a station and then immediately take it out again to continue using it.

My partner and I waited to grab our bikes from Centre Island in order to bike them to Hanlan's, which we eventually did, forgetting our usual mantra of avoid Centre Island as much as possible. The group of six people who got their bikes ahead of us had similar plans, but instead of returning their bikes to Hanlan's dock to eat their meal like we did upon arrival, they held onto them at their picnic table. They were not the only group of five+ people who were holding onto their bikes as they picnic'd within eyeshot of a dock, and that speaks to the fundamental issue of yesterday's experience: lack of bikes and a lack of general etiquette surrounding shared bike services.

The Hanlan's dock at Mermaid Cafe was barren most of our time there. When we brought our bikes a father and son were very happy to see us, saying they had been waiting 20+ minutes for available bikes. The only dock I saw that had plenty of available bikes was Hanlan's ferry dock, where I guess the people travelling to-from that area know that the beach isn't far enough away to make a bike really worth the hassle.

I guess the main resolution would be to add more bikes to the Island network, but that's not going to change the overall habits of what kind of people are renting out bikeshares and for what purpose they are renting them out.
 
Last edited:
Had the opportunity to try out Bike Share's Islands Pilot yesterday...

GPjuvS0WMAAb9Ir.jpg

I think a fundamental question we need to ask ourselves is: what is the purpose of Bikeshare on the Islands? On the mainland its purpose is commuting. One person, one direction, pick up and drop off.

On the Islands....the purpose is leisure, and so the trips are going to be different. In my experience yesterday, the people renting Bikeshares are not people who normally use them for commuting, and are people coming in from further-flung suburbs who view the Bikeshares more like the two-or-four seat rentals already on the island, where they rent them and hold onto them regardless of what they're doing on the island. And it was common for these groups to be four, five, or six people large.

Yesterday's experience was, well, not great. The valets at the stations didn't do anything to support customers. I waited 25+ minutes for a bike at Centre Island as there was no line and no order, and so any person who was bringing a bike back was flocked by half a dozen people waiting for one. Groups would hold onto bikes at the station and not pull them out until they had their required number, and so stations may show "six bikes available" but they were already spoken for with people waiting to take them out. People would return a bike to a station and then immediately take it out again to continue using it.

My partner and I waited to grab our bikes from Centre Island in order to bike them to Hanlan's, which we eventually did, forgetting our usual mantra of avoid Centre Island as much as possible. The group of six people who got their bikes ahead of us had similar plans, but instead of returning their bikes to Hanlan's dock to eat their meal like we did upon arrival, they held onto them at their picnic table. They were not the only group of five+ people who were holding onto their bikes as they picnic'd within eyeshot of a dock, and that speaks to the fundamental issue of yesterday's experience: lack of bikes and a lack of general etiquette surrounding shared bike services.

The Hanlan's dock at Mermaid Cafe was barren most of our time there. When we brought our bikes a father and son were very happy to see us, saying they had been waiting 20+ minutes for available bikes. The only dock I saw that had plenty of available bikes was Hanlan's ferry dock, where I guess the people travelling to-from that area know that the beach isn't far enough away to make a bike really worth the hassle.

I guess the main resolution would be to add more bikes to the Island network, but that's not going to change the overall habits of what kind of people are renting out bikeshares and for what purpose they are renting them out.
Man..

At the Hanlan's dock station there is a massive barn with bikes. There is a truck on the islands to rebalance. I thought on weekends each of the other stations was a coral but maybe they can't keep up.

I agree it is alot of resources/staff which could be put to better use elsewhere.

I avoid the islands due to being at the mercy of the ferry.
 
At the Hanlan's dock station there is a massive barn with bikes. There is a truck on the islands to rebalance. I thought on weekends each of the other stations was a coral but maybe they can't keep up.
I did see a Bikeshare van driving to-from Hanlan's dock station a number of times but I can't tell you if they were loading bikes on or just doing laps.
 
10 more new docks since my last report, giving us 911 total:

In north-east North York:

1750360457750.png


1750360744854.png


1750360497733.png


Two have been added in the Parkway Forest neighbourhood:

1750360536424.png


Downtown there is an additional dock at Bay/King:

1750360623316.png


Over in Scarborough:

1750360797540.png


1750360826573.png


1750360848959.png


and

1750360881847.png
 
None of them are located here:

View attachment 660241

More are coming.............LOL, they're adding them at about 10 a week, and the priority right now is mostly areas that lack any.

This is progress.

There has been and will be more infill this year.....several dozen.
 
More are coming.............LOL, they're adding them at about 10 a week, and the priority right now is mostly areas that lack any.

This is progress.

There has been and will be more infill this year.....several dozen.
I would think that new Bike Share locations would pop up along the Finch West Line 6 and Eglinton Line 5, unless there is construction in the way, once they open. Whatever decade that would be in.
 
As noted by others, Bikeshare on the Toronto Islands has proven quite popular.

2 More docks have gone in:

1750885317778.png


They've added Gilbraltar Point Beach (Botton left) and Centre Island (Lower Centre)

We're now at 914 Docks.
 

Attachments

  • 1750885448121.png
    1750885448121.png
    127.5 KB · Views: 41
Last edited:
Others may have seen this before, I had not. Published today in Washingtom Post

View attachment 663252

Philadelphia at ~$20 for a 30 minute E-bike trip.......... LOL that's USD no less!

Toronto is sane by comparison. Still, notably more than TTC. Worth considering that the TTC is expected to recover ~60c on the dollar, where Bikeshare is aiming to break even. What would Bike share look like fare-wise if the goal were the same as TTC?
 
Last edited:
For comparison's sake, HelloBike in China is roughly $0.30 per 15 minutes with larger cities being cheaper. Base transit costs for subway start around $0.35 depending on the metro.
 

Back
Top