ChazYEG
Senior Member
Please enlighten me as to what the actual F does Marxism have to do with this?
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Dubas
Active Member
It’s going to be crickets. Invoking Marxism without explaining yourself, as if it’s some amorphous disease, is the quickest way to tell everyone at the party you have a room temperature IQ.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Downtown has needed a lot of investment over the past 20+ years. Fixing up streets like Jasper Avenue, building Roger’s Place and the Ice District. Adding downtown residential buildings and a second LRT line. That is a lot for downtown.
It’s true that the Quarters has not had the same success, but I could see something happen within five years. Covid slowed things down, but development like Stationlands and the Winspear expansion has brought promise downtown again.
It’s true that the Quarters has not had the same success, but I could see something happen within five years. Covid slowed things down, but development like Stationlands and the Winspear expansion has brought promise downtown again.
IanO
Superstar
IMHO, there will not be much movement there for another 10-20 given how much land we have to work with Downtown, ICE 2, Old Strath etc.
Barnaby
Senior Member
The Quarters is going to become Edmonton's East Hastings unless it's wrapped up in a package and sold to a developer at ring road pricing (which is what it's worth).
scyeg
Active Member
It would be great to see a developer take it on and build their own little urban village. Think a mix between Stationlands and Stadium Yards.
Barnaby
Senior Member
Something the scale of Stadium Yards would need to be built out in a single stage, or you risk alot of social problems preventing the continuation of a project. I'm thinking 1,000-1,500 units are needed at once, or a bunch of row housing like Blatchford.
itom987
Active Member
Even building a neighbourhood full of snout houses and cul du sacs would be an improvement.
Offworld
Active Member
I appreciate the IQ measurement! Room temperature is an improvement from the
one I'm usually told I have.In short, planners coming out of the UBC planning school as one example (of which urban geography was a bachelor-level taste of left-wing interpretations of real estate), learned to lens real estate through a Marxist eyeglass. That tended to produce planners that were, to varying degrees, working in a bubble that was either market-antagonistic or market-ignorant. In a market-based economy, one can plan all they want but if they ignore the market, knowingly or not, you can end up with examples like the Quarters: a costly planning bubble.
And even so, that's only my $0.02 based on my own experiences both in field of studies and real-world real estate work.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
No concrete examples... Not to mention the broad definition of anything that you don't agree with as "Marxist" with absolutely no substance to support it.I appreciate the IQ measurement! Room temperature is an improvement from the
In short, planners coming out of the UBC planning school as one example (of which urban geography was a bachelor-level taste of left-wing interpretations of real estate), learned to lens real estate through a Marxist eyeglass. That tended to produce planners that were, to varying degrees, working in a bubble that was either market-antagonistic or market-ignorant. In a market-based economy, one can plan all they want but if they ignore the market, knowingly or not, you can end up with examples like the Quarters: a costly planning bubble.
And even so, that's only my $0.02 based on my own experiences both in field of studies and real-world real estate work.
I dare you define what is Marxism, without ChatGPT.
constance_chlore
Active Member
Setting aside the "what is Marxism?" deal, there certainly is a kind of left-NIMBY who's averse to the idea that a developer might ever make a profit on anything. But this discussion is about Kinistinaw Park, and I don't know that that conversation really pertains to it. The city poured a lot of money into it in the hopes that a broader investment would materialize, and it didn't. Maybe the city's judgment was bad, or maybe they were the victims of bad luck, but I don't see anything anti-market there.
IanO
Superstar
IanO
Superstar
The most important lot to get going...
bodsbods9090
Senior Member
Pending...good to see.
If anyone is in the know, are they being sold to people who will develop on these lots?
YEG imagineer
Active Member
Is this the E4C project or is this a new one? Please be a new one.