archited
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This used to be Danny Hooper's Stockyard Night Club -- I used to frequent it regularly back in the day. Someone should grab this up! Edmonton could use another engaging music venue.
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David A
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While the organization does good work locally, I'm not sure if the senior management and admin is local any more. So perhaps that partly explains it.
TAS
Senior Member
When building does start happening, it will benefit from a decently mature treescape along 96st.
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SarcasticMarmot
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I worked in that building 15 years ago. It was falling apart back then, the foundation is in very rough shape and the whole thing is infested with mice and mold. My favorite was that I could poke a stick through the brick in my basement office and it would pop outside in the dirt, the draft was incredible. I don't even want to think about what condition it is now. It would take serious money to rehab the building and I have a hard time seeing a viable economic case in that neighborhood. Aside from its age the building is actually not that architecturally interesting, there are much better churches to focus on saving.
I don't think it would matter. I have problems with the management of The Mustard Seed but getting facility dollars is so hard for any non-profit that choosing to spend it on a massive money sink like this building would never make the priority list for any of the homelessness support focused charities. When I was there we redid the kitchen, and that took nearly a decade of fundraising.
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SarcasticMarmot
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On another note for the Quarters. The province's "Navigation Centre" is relocating into the former Bissell Drop-In Space.
edmonton.citynews.ca
Edmonton Navigation and Support Centre relocating to larger space
Edmonton’s Navigation and Support Centre is moving into a larger facility. The centre is relocating from the Karis Centre building to the Bissell Centre West, which is close to emergency shelters. The Alberta government says the additional space will provide more privacy, and allow staff to...
edmonton.citynews.ca
itom987
Active Member
They are concentrating services for the homeless, not a good idea.
Tropical
Active Member
Incorrect. The services are moving to an existing space that is already serving people living though houselessness. Plus, the proximity of services means fewer friction points for people (meaning better services).
archited
Senior Member
Any type of rubber-stamping in terms of people in need leads to a sense of hopelessness for those being served. Deep care in terms of people-as-individuals is what is really needed; I think @itom987 may have been alluding to that with the "concentration" comment. To the extent that it is a mass "cattle-call" type setup, I agree with him that one location may be leaning in the wrong direction. Several cities in the U.S. are looking to decentralize their social services locations such that they are more community oriented.
itom987
Active Member
They are concentrating them in an area during the day time. The navigation centre is being moved close to where the homeless concentrate at night. Now the concentration will be there day and night creating another 24h dead zone, they should be integrating them back into society by decentralizing all services.
itom987
Active Member
Over the last 4 years we have seen the homeless panhandle in areas they never did before. Overall it is not a good thing but the silver lining in it is that it forces non-homeless people to get along with the homeless instead of running away. Like it or not, we need that exposure.
David A
Senior Member
While I do feel concentration may not be good, I don't think the current strategy of having the homeless wander around aimlessly all over downtown and elsewhere all day really benefits anyone either.
archited
Senior Member
The City could up the ante vis-a-vis Community Centres by providing homeless services in a decentralized fashion in those locations across the City. What would need to go hand in hand with that, however, would be caring social workers that could help with rallying support services brought to Community outlets that homeless could then rely on.
David A
Senior Member
Nope. What we really need is the three levels of government to work together and fix the d*mn problems rather than point fingers and blame each other.
itom987
Active Member
Ewwwww don't touch me! lol
