[Monarch Butterfly]

And Line 4 connecting to Pearson should capture a lot of employment trips at the airport, in addition to travelers. Line 5 will also connect to Pearson, but feeder routes from the north would be captured by Line 4 if it were extended and save a considerable amount of travel time.

Line 4 could bypass the Pearson Transit Hub completely, and follow Rexdale Blvd./Derry Road, skirting the north side of Pearson, but connect at the Malton GO Station.

The airport is a pretty big detour for many people.

 

[Islington Express Bus]

Line 4 could bypass the Pearson Transit Hub completely, and follow Rexdale Blvd./Derry Road, skirting the north side of Pearson, but connect at the Malton GO Station.

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The airport is a pretty big detour for many people.

Walter, we know where you live.

 

[Rainforest]

Line 4 could bypass the Pearson Transit Hub completely, and follow Rexdale Blvd./Derry Road, skirting the north side of Pearson, but connect at the Malton GO Station.

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The airport is a pretty big detour for many people.

My gut feeling is that a direct connection to the Pearson terminals will give the subway more riders. So, probably would run the subway to the airport, and build a separate LRT on Derry-Rexdale, that connects both to the subway and to the GO line. Two separate lines might be more stable operationally, too.

Anyway, that decision is very far in the future, and would be subject to demand forecasts at the time.

 

[Alex L]

I don't think anyone should wish for that. Going by early reports from the first concert it should be torn down asap and never be spoken of again.

I was at the first concert. The stadium is all temporary construction. No foundation. Clearly no plans for a permanent installation. As an indication of where the money lies, the washroom area is all portable toilets, while they did build a building for merch. The concessions, etc. are all tent-type construction. It was improved for Coldplay: the pathways to the subways and GO were not fully lit before. It was a bit hairy being in the dark with 10,000 others going the same way. People were basically well-behaved sardines.

 

[Alex L]

If the goal is to cross the Humber River - that's a lot easier to do if the subway swings to Wilson than if it stays on Sheppard.

On Sheppard, west of the Weston Rd intersection, it will face Humber River, with houses on both sides. Will need to either demolish those houses, or go into a very deep tunnel under the houses and the river.

If the subway swings to Wilson, then it can cross the river on the bridge next to the 401 structures.

The question is where to swing. I believe, between Dufferin and Keele is the most logical option. Alternatively, it is possible to follow Sheppard till Jane, and then use the Hwy 400 corridor to swing south.

I suggest it continue to the airport. I put this on my blog

You could have Islington and Kipling instead of Rexdale, but the idea is an express subway line across Toronto to relieve the 401.

 

[duty free]

Yeaaaa no.

I would much rather see it terminate at Sheppard West for the time being. Once you get west of Bathurst, the density drops and regardless Sheppard terminates at Weston Road.

The real value is heading east where everything is built up and the demand is. Even at Morningside and Sheppard there is demand for a subway while the area around Meadowvale is being built out. Markham and Sheppard has been built up for decades.

Can we build it elevated though? That's the real question.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Can we build it elevated though? That's the real question.

Why? Isn't the plan for it to be a subway which by definition is underground.

 

[Aplus23]

Bringing the line east will add more ridership, going east & west at the same time is the right thing to do for connectivity & new travel trip opportunities.

 

[nfitz]

Why? Isn't the plan for it to be a subway which by definition is underground.

If there's existing subway in Toronto that's not underground, why does that preclude having more?

There's certainly elevated lines in New York City that are called subways. There's more London Underground that's not underground that there is underground. Along with a significant underground section of the London Overground.

And parts of the Chicago L that aren't elevated, and even in tunnels.

 

[81-717]

There's more London Underground that's not underground that there is underground. Along with a significant underground section of the London Overground.

There's even a spot where the underground passes above the overground

Although I don't know of any subway line anywhere that is 0% underground (the SRT would've sort-of counted if it weren't for a couple of short tunnel sections between Ellesmere & Midland, and if it were a subway rather than light metro).

 

[duty free]

Why? Isn't the plan for it to be a subway which by definition is underground.

I believe all "subways" should be built elevated above ground when/if possible.

Cheaper to build, faster to build, cheaper to maintain.

 

[Thaboss]

I believe all "subways" should be built elevated above ground when/if possible.

Cheaper to build, faster to build, cheaper to maintain.

Agreed but the NIMBYS would lose their minds if an overground extension was proposed east...dealing with them would delay things for a solid year or two..

 

[Amare]

Cheaper to build, faster to build, cheaper to maintain.

Apparently not for the TTC, whom cant maintain subway trackage these days if their lives depended on it.

 

[dowlingm]

I suggest it continue to the airport. I put this on my blogView attachment 668038

You could have Islington and Kipling instead of Rexdale, but the idea is an express subway line across Toronto to relieve the 401.

Doesn’t look very express to me, and Finch W is just to the north. Cutting SW to Wilson seems the more sensible routing even if it misses Woodbine, since there are at least two malls en route which could be developed as stations/TOD

 

[Alex L]

Doesn’t look very express to me, and Finch W is just to the north. Cutting SW to Wilson seems the more sensible routing even if it misses Woodbine, since there are at least two malls en route which could be developed as stations/TOD

The stations are at least a mile apart. That's a long distance in subway terms.

I wouldn't be opposed to running along Wilson, but I do think Woodbine mall and casino should be on a rapid transit line.

My main thinking is that we need a subway to take some of the traffic off of the 401. Going from Scarborough Civic Centre to the airport could really help. Even extending the line west a stop to the west of the airport would serve a lot of employment.