[Northern Light]

Isnt MTSA default now? Like if it did happen isnt zoning around stations massive?

Around a station that doesn't currently exist? No.

There is no mechanism for an MTSA to automatically come into existence either.

 

[Metroscapes]

Lobbying with the city? isnt this a Provencial project? Not sure what they hope to gain from that

- Future MTSA designations along the route; tied to future station locations.

This would be my guess; getting the City to explore upzoning their clients property in anticipation of the Line 4 extension.

 

[Aplus23]

According to the TTC report, any extension would need train storage facility and they are using the land at Conlins & Sheppard for consideration.. That would take the precedent over the Eglinton east lrt using those grounds for their MSF.
Why doesn't Metrolinx wanna extend this west as well for a northern crosstown

 

[ethan.l.cecc]

According to the TTC report, any extension would need train storage facility and they are using the land at Conlins & Sheppard for consideration.. That would take the precedent over the Eglinton east lrt using those grounds for their MSF.
Why doesn't Metrolinx wanna extend this west as well for a northern crosstown

An extension west is part of one of the options provided by Metrolinx for community engagement. I think the TTC report is more stating that for capacity, even given a connection to the Wilson yard, will still require a new storage facility at Conlins & Sheppard. Others may know more about the capacity at Wilson, but I think that if they were to only extend west (which is the least likely option I believe), then Wilson would have enough space for a few more train sets, but again there are others here that know more about that

 

[urbancog]

An extension west is part of one of the options provided by Metrolinx for community engagement

Yes, but they're only proposing to extend west to Sheppard West or Downsview, when they should be planning to go to the airport and/or Woodbine GO to take traffic off the 401.

 

[ethan.l.cecc]

Yes, but they're only proposing to extend west to Sheppard West or Downsview, when they should be planning to go to the airport and/or Woodbine GO to take traffic off the 401.

Fair enough, I think it has to do with budgeting (they can only build so much at a time), and the demand on the corridor west of Downsview. Sheppard itself ends at Weston, and the area isn't particularly dense. That would probably lead them to go down to Wilson to hit denser areas along the 401 + the Humber River Hospital. Also, keep in mind that Etobicoke and western North York have had a lot of transit construction over the past decade with Finch West and Eglinton West LRTs, while Scarborough has no east-west transit investment north of the 401, with more residents further from the Subway. Long term, it would make sense to extend Line 4 further west, but on the time scale MX is working on, it's simply not realistic to extend it past Sheppard West Station. But who knows, maybe once construction starts (whenever that will happen), suddenly they will announce further westward expansion

 

[TRONto]

Fair enough, I think it has to do with budgeting (they can only build so much at a time), and the demand on the corridor west of Downsview. Sheppard itself ends at Weston, and the area isn't particularly dense. That would probably lead them to go down to Wilson to hit denser areas along the 401 + the Humber River Hospital. Also, keep in mind that Etobicoke and western North York have had a lot of transit construction over the past decade with Finch West and Eglinton West LRTs, while Scarborough has no east-west transit investment north of the 401, with more residents further from the Subway. Long term, it would make sense to extend Line 4 further west, but on the time scale MX is working on, it's simply not realistic to extend it past Sheppard West Station. But who knows, maybe once construction starts (whenever that will happen), suddenly they will announce further westward expansion

Based on recent transit announcements (specifically the Brampton GO link/downtown Mississauga ext for HuLRT), we may see the westward extension announced at the next election.

 

[hw621]

Based on recent transit announcements (specifically the Brampton GO link/downtown Mississauga ext for HuLRT), we may see the westward extension announced at the next election.

and built for the next generation?

 

[dowlingm]

An extension west is part of one of the options provided by Metrolinx for community engagement. I think the TTC report is more stating that for capacity, even given a connection to the Wilson yard, will still require a new storage facility at Conlins & Sheppard. Others may know more about the capacity at Wilson, but I think that if they were to only extend west (which is the least likely option I believe), then Wilson would have enough space for a few more train sets, but again there are others here that know more about that

No point in putting too many eggs in one basket. Create a connection for west end early train storage sure, but a new facility in the east would create more flexibility. Perhaps a paint shop could be added to reduce moves to/from Greenwood Yard for example.

 

[TRONto]

and built for the next generation?

Considering our current projects are probably going to be finished around 2035.... I'd say the generation after that

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Bringing in the new map posted on Reddit from the Pride Parade for discussion here:

Seems to be the first time we are seeing what stations are being considered?

Also - The city/metrolinx should really be talking to Northcrest about protecting for a station in central Downsview. Will be much cheaper to do it with this project than after the community is built up. Hangar district would be a good spot for a future Line 4 West extension going down Wilson.

 

[Adjei]

Is there supposed to be two branches ? One which goes to Sheppard and McCown and another to Scarborough Town Centre ?

 

[cplchanb]

I'd say they should close the loop first and go to Sheppard west. That could offload a lot of riders from needlessly going all the way down past union.

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Is there supposed to be two branches ? One which goes to Sheppard and McCown and another to Scarborough Town Centre ?

99% sure its just 2 study areas that are being considered.

 

[christiesplits]

99% sure its just 2 study areas that are being considered.

Are there any recent tea leaves indicating which option Metrolinx is leaning towards?