[UtakataNoAnnex]

The Trudeau, then Carney gov'ts are not looking particularly sincere in their efforts to reduce foreign students and TFWs....

The Star Reports:

Ottawa set out to reduce Canada’s temporary residents. Here’s how it’s going

The federal government has reduced its immigration intakes for three years in response to public backlash against high immigration amid a housing and affordability crisis.

www.thestar.com

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My patience is wearing thin.

But wouldn't you want to increase them as they put more money back into the post secondary schools and the economy? Feels like we're cutting our noses off here to save our faces.

 

[narduch]

Why would they stop the program?

The corporations they serve love it

 

[chrisw]

The Trudeau, then Carney gov'ts are not looking particularly sincere in their efforts to reduce foreign students and TFWs....

The Star Reports:

Ottawa set out to reduce Canada’s temporary residents. Here’s how it’s going

The federal government has reduced its immigration intakes for three years in response to public backlash against high immigration amid a housing and affordability crisis.

www.thestar.com

My patience is wearing thin.

If your patience is wearing thin ...don't just look at this 2024 year end data.

Population growth slows to near zero, driven by temporary resident outflow

Canada’s population grew by 0.1% in the second quarter, the same level of growth the country experienced between January and March of 2025

www.theglobeandmail.com

The slow growth was driven by outflows of non-permanent residents. The number of temporary residents fell by nearly 60,000 between April 1 and July 1 of this year.

The measures have been working, albeit slowly. The number of temporary residents peaked at 7.6 per cent of the total population in October, 2024, but has since dropped to 7.3 per cent, or just over three million people. Since the start of the year, the number of non-permanent residents has fallen by roughly 114,000.

In particular, the number of study-permit holders sharply declined between April and July, with 32,025 fewer international students in the country. In the past year alone, the number has fallen by almost 18 per cent. [669k to 551k study permit holders YoY]

Mikal Skuterud, a labour economist at the University of Waterloo, noted that the decline in the temporary resident population will not happen in a linear fashion. “I expect that the pace of decline will accelerate over the next few quarters, as study permits and work permits expire, and fewer of these permits are issued.”

Prof. Skuterud is, however, doubtful that Ottawa will hit its 5-per-cent temporary resident population target by the end of 2026. “I don’t think they anticipated the challenge with a backlog in asylum claims. That number is rising, so it is probably going to take a longer time for the government to hit its target.”

 

[Northern Light]

If your patience is wearing thin ...don't just look at this 2024 year end data.

Population growth slows to near zero, driven by temporary resident outflow

Canada’s population grew by 0.1% in the second quarter, the same level of growth the country experienced between January and March of 2025

www.theglobeandmail.com

The slow growth was driven by outflows of non-permanent residents. The number of temporary residents fell by nearly 60,000 between April 1 and July 1 of this year.

The measures have been working, albeit slowly. The number of temporary residents peaked at 7.6 per cent of the total population in October, 2024, but has since dropped to 7.3 per cent, or just over three million people. Since the start of the year, the number of non-permanent residents has fallen by roughly 114,000.

In particular, the number of study-permit holders sharply declined between April and July, with 32,025 fewer international students in the country. In the past year alone, the number has fallen by almost 18 per cent. [669k to 551k study permit holders YoY]

Mikal Skuterud, a labour economist at the University of Waterloo, noted that the decline in the temporary resident population will not happen in a linear fashion. “I expect that the pace of decline will accelerate over the next few quarters, as study permits and work permits expire, and fewer of these permits are issued.”

Prof. Skuterud is, however, doubtful that Ottawa will hit its 5-per-cent temporary resident population target by the end of 2026. “I don’t think they anticipated the challenge with a backlog in asylum claims. That number is rising, so it is probably going to take a longer time for the government to hit its target.”

I certainly agree w/using the most up to date data. I would point out that said data suggests flat population growth where negative growth (reduction) is called for.

The last line in your quote above suggests that experts doubt the government can achieve its own target, a target I feel is too high. (insufficient)

Pre-2015 Canada has fewer than 3% temporary residents. I think that's the appropriate target; achieving that target will call for an overall population reduction in Canada of no less than 2%, I would argue for 4% net, 5% gross (with additional space for high skill immigrants the economy genuinely requires)

So I'm irritated by a government that set itself a lax target, and is trailing behind its own goals.

 

[Jonny5]

The axe swings at Canada Post.

The federal government is embarking on a modernization plan it says will allow Canada Post to stabilize its finances and ensure the survival of the corporation.

Chief among those changes is allowing Canada Post to end home delivery and convert the remaining four million addresses that still receive it to community mailboxes.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-post-transformation-changes-1.7643345

 

[picard102]

Looks like the tech bros are getting what they wanted.

 

[Northern Light]

Looks like the tech bros are getting what they wanted.

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[picard102]

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Maple MAGA / Canadian DODGE advocate, Tobi (Shopify CEO), was calling for the end of the government monopoly on mail delivery, and to punish postal workers for striking.

 

[Admiral Beez]

The axe swings at Canada Post.

Good. Ever since I put up a "no flyers, no junk mail, no free newspapers" sign above my mail box I have noticed that we get very little addressed mail. And our recycling bin is dramatically underutilized now. Just think of all the wasted paper Canada Post dumped on all of us and into our landfills and recycling streams.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Mikal Skuterud, a labour economist at the University of Waterloo, noted that the decline in the temporary resident population will not happen in a linear fashion. “I expect that the pace of decline will accelerate over the next few quarters”

Good. TFW used to be primarily seasonal agricultural labourers. Let's return to that.

Poilievre must be cursing. The Liberals are cutting back door immigration channels, gutting the Federal Civil Service and now taking the chop to Canada Post. Why exactly do we need the CPC?

 

[Northern Light]

Maple MAGA / Canadian DODGE advocate, Tobi (Shopify CEO), was calling for the end of the government monopoly on mail delivery, and to punish postal workers for striking.

While I'm sympathetic to postal workers wanting a living wage and job security much more than 'tech bros' They (Canada Post) lost over 400M last quarter alone.

Letter mail is drying up; and they don't have a monopoly on parcels and indeed lost significant market share in those in the last year.

That only leaves the options of perpetual subsidy of 1.6B per year (or greater) or reducing service through either less frequent pick-up/delivery or through community mails boxes/shifting rural delivery to PO box.

They are choosing cuts over subsidy and I find it hard to argue.

I mean 1.6B a year, is 16B over the next decade (without inflation factored) there's a lot of good that could do in supporting infrastructure, universities , healthcare. etc.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Government of Canada instructs Canada Post to begin transformation​

From https://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/news/2025/09/government-of-canada-instructs-canada-post-to-begin-transformation.html

Statement​

September 25, 2025 - Gatineau, Quebec

Today, the Honourable Joël Lightbound, Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement, issued the following statement:

“Canada Post is a national institution, older than our country itself, that has been serving Canadians for more than 150 years. For generations, postal workers have connected communities in every corner of the country, providing an essential lifeline to hundreds of northern, Indigenous, and rural communities. Canadians continue to rely on it today, and it remains a vital public service.

At the same time, Canada Post is now facing an existential crisis. Since 2018, the corporation has accumulated more than $5 billion in losses. In 2024 alone, it lost over $1 billion, and in 2025, it is already on track to lose close to $1.5 billion. Earlier this year, the federal government provided a $1-billion injection to keep the corporation operational. In the second quarter of 2025, Canada Post posted its worst quarterly results ever, losing $407 million. Today, the corporation is losing approximately $10 million every day.

Twenty years ago, Canada Post delivered 5.5 billion letters annually. Today, it delivers only 2 billion, even as the number of households has grown. That means fewer letters are being delivered to more addresses, while fixed costs remain high. At the same time, parcels volumes — which should have been Canada Post’s growth opportunity — have declined. In 2019, Canada Post delivered 62% of parcels in Canada; today, its market share has dropped below 24%, with private competitors taking the lead. Structural challenges, combined with outdated restrictions and stalled negotiations between labour and management, have further limited the corporation’s ability to adapt.

This situation is unsustainable. Canada Post is effectively insolvent, and repeated bailouts are not a long-term solution. Transformation is required to ensure the survival of Canada Post and protect the services Canadians rely on.

In its report released on May 15, the Industrial Inquiry Commission, led by William Kaplan, identified the scale of the challenge and recommended a path forward. Building on these recommendations, I am announcing today a series of measures to stabilize the corporation’s finances and enable its modernization.

· Letter Mail Delivery Standards: Canada Post will introduce flexibilities to reflect today’s lower volumes. The average household receives just two letters per week, yet operations remain designed for far higher volumes. By adjusting standards so that non-urgent mail can move by ground instead of air, the corporation will save more than $20 million per year.


· Community Mailbox Conversions: The government is lifting the moratorium on community mailbox conversions. Currently, three-quarters of Canadians already receive mail through community, apartment, or rural mailboxes, while one-quarter still receive door-to-door delivery. Canada Post will be authorized to convert the remaining 4 million addresses to community mailboxes, generating close to $400 million in annual savings.


· Postal Network Modernization: The moratorium on rural post offices, in place since 1994, will also be lifted. The rural moratorium was imposed in 1994 and covers close to 4000 locations. It has not evolved in 30 years, but Canada has changed. This means that areas that used to be rural may now be suburban or even urban, but are still required to operate as rural post offices. Canada Post must return to the government with a plan to modernize and right-size its network.

The government is also reviewing the process for increases to the stamp rate to modernize and shorten it, in line with Commissioner Kaplan’s recommendations.

The Government of Canada is removing long-standing barriers to reform, but leadership and structural change from within the corporation will be essential. Canada Post must take decisive action to deliver the services Canadians need in a way that is financially sustainable. As our government reviews its balance sheets so we can spend less and invest more, we are asking Canada Post to do the same.

Canada Post is a vital national institution worth preserving. The measures announced today will help place the corporation on a stronger financial footing and provide the flexibility it needs to adapt to a rapidly changing environment.

Transforming an institution of this size will take time, but it is necessary to protect postal services for the future. Canadians deserve a service that is reliable, affordable, and sustainable — and today’s announcement is the first step toward securing that future.”

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Government of Canada instructs Canada Post to begin transformation​

From https://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/news/2025/09/government-of-canada-instructs-canada-post-to-begin-transformation.html

This means those households that still get door-to-door mail delivery will now be converted to the community mailbox.

 

[Admiral Beez]

This means those households that still get door-to-door mail delivery will now be converted to the community mailbox.

I wonder where they'll put it in densely built areas like mine in Cabbagetown? I'd be fine with a PO box at the Shoppers.

 

[picard102]

While I'm sympathetic to postal workers wanting a living wage and job security much more than 'tech bros' They (Canada Post) lost over 400M last quarter alone.

Letter mail is drying up; and they don't have a monopoly on parcels and indeed lost significant market share in those in the last year.

That only leaves the options of perpetual subsidy of 1.6B per year (or greater) or reducing service through either less frequent pick-up/delivery or through community mails boxes/shifting rural delivery to PO box.

They are choosing cuts over subsidy and I find it hard to argue.

I mean 1.6B a year, is 16B over the next decade (without inflation factored) there's a lot of good that could do in supporting infrastructure, universities , healthcare. etc.

I find it hard to believe that the 16B saved will be used for anything other than to reduce taxes for the wealthy.

I'm not entirely convinced that we should be treating Canada Post as a business trying to find efficiencies through lowering their front line headcount by service cuts, rather than fund it like any other government service such as the police or healthcare.

That said I've been fighting with CP over a parcel they refuse to even attempt to deliver for 4 weeks now. So I'm not entirely sympathetic to their plight when they are failing at the basics.