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I remember the post office drop boxes. They were replaced by the post office truck. The drop boxes disappeared. I would expect a community mailbox where the drop boxes used to be.
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Bringing people together by eroding their postal services... /s
 
lenaitch said:
Like it or lump it, either changes have to be made to the money pit that Canada Post is, or we accept to continue to pour money into said pit.
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Where I work there's a group that handles benefit payments to pensioners for dozens of pension plans.
Before the last postal strike they had already cut down the number who receive cheques to only about 30% and switched them to direct deposit. When the strike came they got that down to 20% by informing the pensioners about direct deposit and helping them through that process. They expect that especially as it's at the critical month end time, they will now get that down to 10% or less.

That's going to be thousands of cheques no longer sent by mail, and our business is a small player in that market in Canada. This strike will probably cut hundreds of thousands of pieces of mail from ever being sent for delivery ever again, just like the last one did. They are down to nothing but coupons for $1 off a sandwich at Subway, or the grocery store flyer which I already saw online the day before it was in my mailbox which I check maybe once per week.

The only thing I have received of any value this entire year was my federal election voter card, which arrived literally the day before the election, and my renewed drivers licence and health card, and there is an irony there in that I hadn't noticed they expired because the Ontario government stopped bothering to mail notices they were going to expire because it was too expensive to pay Canada Post to do it.

These strikes literally cause people to stop using Canada Post and find the alternatives.
 
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Jonny5 said:
Where I work there's a group that handles benefit payments to pensioners for dozens of pension plans.
Before the last postal strike they had already cut down the number who receive cheques to only about 30% and switched them to direct deposit. When the strike came they got that down to 20% by informing the pensioners about direct deposit and helping them through that process. They expect that especially as it's at the critical month end time, they will now get that down to 10% or less.

That's going to be thousands of cheques no longer sent by mail, and our business is a small player in that market in Canada. This strike will probably cut hundreds of thousands of pieces of mail from ever being sent for delivery ever again, just like the last one did. They are down to nothing but coupons for subway for $1 off a sandwich, or the grocery store flyer which I already saw online the day before it was in my mailbox which I check maybe once per week.

The only thing I have received of any value this entire year was my federal election voter card, which arrived literally the day before the election, and my renewed drivers licence and health card, and there is an irony there in that I hadn't noticed they expired because the Ontario government stopped bothering to mail notices they were going to expire because it was to expensive to pay Canada Post to do it.

These strikes literally cause people to stop using Canada Post and find the alternatives.
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I honestly feel bad for my Aunt and her Boyfriend.

Earlier this year she retired from Canada post after 42 years and her boyfriend retired after 30. If Canada Post goes tits up, it could impact people like her who have one hell of a pension and retirement benefits with them.
 
UtakataNoAnnex said:
...I think the problem is assuming Canada Post is there to turn a profit.
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Not turning a profit is one thing, running massive deficits while having a reputation of being unreliable and inflexible is another.

Richard White said:
I honestly feel bad for my Aunt and her Boyfriend.

Earlier this year she retired from Canada post after 42 years and her boyfriend retired after 30. If Canada Post goes tits up, it could impact people like her who have one hell of a pension and retirement benefits with them.
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I wouldn't worry too much about pension from a crown corp.

AoD
 
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Richard White said:
I honestly feel bad for my Aunt and her Boyfriend.

Earlier this year she retired from Canada post after 42 years and her boyfriend retired after 30. If Canada Post goes tits up, it could impact people like her who have one hell of a pension and retirement benefits with them.
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The last actuarial report from their website shows the Canada Post defined benefit pension plan actually has a surplus.
It was 107% funded for future payments as of 2024, up from 102% in 2023, and it made $884 million of net income last year, so they had a good year on the markets, and it's all held in a separate trust account from the government, so they shouldn't be worried.
 
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picard102 said:
Yet we spend 1.2 billion on police in just one city that have the same reputation of being unreliable. Why are they not supposed to run revenu neutral but the post office should?
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Two wrongs doesn't make a right.

picard102 said:
Either they strike and lose their jobs or don't strike and lose their jobs.
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It's more like they strike (again) and further the case of their job loss, including the public support for it. I am not sure if they understand just how unpopular they are right now, and how these disruptions are making the case for a transition away from CP.

AoD
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
It's more like they strike (again) and further the case of their job loss, including the public support for it. I am not sure if they understand just how unpopular they are right now, and how these disruptions are making the case for a transition away from CP.
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The government just told them they would be losing their jobs. Either they strike, and prove that their jobs are surplus, or they prove how much people rely on them. Either way doing nothing is accepting a pink slip.
 
Jonny5 said:
Where I work there's a group that handles benefit payments to pensioners for dozens of pension plans.
Before the last postal strike they had already cut down the number who receive cheques to only about 30% and switched them to direct deposit. When the strike came they got that down to 20% by informing the pensioners about direct deposit and helping them through that process. They expect that especially as it's at the critical month end time, they will now get that down to 10% or less.

That's going to be thousands of cheques no longer sent by mail, and our business is a small player in that market in Canada. This strike will probably cut hundreds of thousands of pieces of mail from ever being sent for delivery ever again, just like the last one did. They are down to nothing but coupons for $1 off a sandwich at Subway, or the grocery store flyer which I already saw online the day before it was in my mailbox which I check maybe once per week.

The only thing I have received of any value this entire year was my federal election voter card, which arrived literally the day before the election, and my renewed drivers licence and health card, and there is an irony there in that I hadn't noticed they expired because the Ontario government stopped bothering to mail notices they were going to expire because it was to expensive to pay Canada Post to do it.

These strikes literally cause people to stop using Canada Post and find the alternatives.
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Decades ago, I had changed my father's CPP and OAS cheques to direct deposit. Then instead of walking to the bank to cash the cheques, he would walk to the bank to withdraw any needed cash. Did pre-authorized payments for his bills (gas, electricity, telephone) for him. Didn't need to walk to the bank to pay the bills. The bills and cheques don't need the post office anymore.

Now that I'm retired (I'm 74 now), I did the same. Haven't received any cheques or bills through the post office.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
Decades ago, I had changed my father's CPP and OAS cheques to direct deposit. Then instead of walking to the bank to cash the cheques, he would walk to the bank to withdraw any needed cash. Did pre-authorized payments for his bills (gas, electricity, telephone) for him. Didn't need to walk to the bank to pay the bills. The bills and cheques don't need the post office anymore.

Now that I'm retired (I'm 74 now), I did the same. Haven't received any cheques or bills through the post office.
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My parents are technophobes.

They refuse to get any bills or banking statements emailed to them because they feel it is not secure or that they may not see it. My father refuses to get direct deposit for any government cheques because he does not understand technology all that well.
 
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