[EBT]

One band member is facing terrorism charges in the UK. And rightfully so, I can see why Canada banned them.

A member of Irish language hip-hop group Kneecap has been charged with a terror offence after allegedly displaying a flag in support of proscribed organisation Hezbollah at a London gig.

Look at the basis for the charges. He displayed a Hezbollah flag, and so he is charged with terrorism, which is total B.S.. Hezbollah is a Shia militia that was created to protect Lebanon from Israeli invasions, which have happened in the past. It enjoys support from a significant portion of the Christian minority. Are the Lebanese allowed to defend their country from invasion? Israel has made no secret of its plans to take over Lebanon and large parts of Syria as part of its "Greater Israel" plan. Israel calls any group that opposes its aggression "terrorists". Hezbollah doesn't snipe little kids in the head; it doesn't drop 2000 lb. bombs on tents in which families are sheltering. Hezbollah doesn't starve populations to death or bomb hospitals. Who are the real terrorists in the region?

The UK is an authoritarian police state where free speech is dead, and I am afraid Canada is headed in that direction.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

^To be clear, if they use political violence to suppress voices that oppose them or groups they don't like then I can see why they would be an issue regardless how noble their cause is. Furthermore, one does not need to supportive of them in backing the plight of Palestinians here.

...that said, flashing symbolism that may have something to do with them is not the same as taking up arms for their cause. And thusly is best dealt with by debate and peaceful discourse as opposed to policing the former, IMO.

 

[picard102]

It's horrible on both sides, but you seem to ignore all the the sexual violence by and beheading of gay people by Hamas, which is just as utterly deplorable as bombing babies to bits by Israel. You seem to be very one sided and brain washed by Hamas propaganda.

Being LGBTQI+ in Palestine means:1) Up to 10 years in Prison for being Gay 2) Physical violence including beheadings, assault & torture 3) No civil laws protecting LGBT from discrimination or harassment4) LGBT groups are banned from holding any events or parades

You seem to be ignoring that Israel uses sexual violence against LGBT Palestinians by entraping them and forcing them to become operatives or face death.
No one has killed more LGBT Palestinians than Israel at this point.

Not to mention the rapes and abuse the IDF hand out to anyone they deem sub-human, fully backed by Israeli people and politicians.

Israeli lawmaker defends alleged rape of Hamas prisoner as far-right protesters rage over IDF troops' detention

Far-right Israelis try to storm military base and lawmaker defends rape of Hamas suspects as 9 IDF reservists face questioning over alleged prisoner abuse.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Mihairokov]

My guess is because Jewish Canadians generally vote Liberal.

Jewish person =/= Zionism supporter.

Anyway, there's no way for you to actually assume this outside of how the ridings swing, and given that most Jewish-heavy ridings are in cities it's tough to exactly extrapolate how they vote counter to the rest of the riding voting. I believe the highest % Jewish riding in Canada is Thornhill, which votes Conservative.

Jewish numbers are not enough to reasonably sway the vote outside of half-a-dozen ridings.

 

[ShonTron]

Jewish person =/= Zionism supporter.

Anyway, there's no way for you to actually assume this outside of how the ridings swing, and given that most Jewish-heavy ridings are in cities it's tough to exactly extrapolate how they vote counter to the rest of the riding voting. I believe the highest % Jewish riding in Canada is Thornhill, which votes Conservative.

Jewish numbers are not enough to reasonably sway the vote outside of half-a-dozen ridings.

Exactly. While the pro-Israel voices tend to be the loudest in the mainstream media, Canada's Jewish communities are not singular in their political views, apart from wanting (and deserving) of feeling safe in their day-to-day lives. Perspectives on all sorts of matters, including the Middle East, are very wide-ranging. With the exception of Thornhill, Liberals generally tend to do well in ridings with larger Jewish populations, but the Conservatives are definitely competitive in several of them.

In the Toronto area, Thornhill, York Centre, and Eglinton-Lawrence are the most "Jewish" ridings, with significant populations in Toronto-St. Paul's and Don Valley West. In Montreal, it's Mount-Royal (Housefather), followed by NDG-Westmount and Outremont, plus smaller populations in the St-Laurent riding and two or three West Island ridings. There are a scattering of ridings elsewhere, in Ottawa and Winnipeg in particular.

In general, Thornhill tends to lean more conservative, while York Centre is quite a mix, especially since it's a very east-west riding that extends into the Downsview and York University areas, which are largely Italian, Black, Turkish, and Latin-American. Even the east side of the riding is not majority Jewish, with a large Filipino-Canadian population.

So, yeah, it's complex, which always makes things interesting. It's also a key reason why we have to be civil and be cognizant of the diversity within our diverse communities.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

Most of the stuff I've been reading on Palestine and the horror of a state that wants to wipe them out have come from Jewish sources. And they're mortified of what's going on, to put that mildly...

...and please don't call them "self-hating Jews" either, as that would make you the lowest of low next to a Trump supporter. Just saying.

 

[ShonTron]

One band member is facing terrorism charges in the UK. And rightfully so, I can see why Canada banned them.

A member of Irish language hip-hop group Kneecap has been charged with a terror offence after allegedly displaying a flag in support of proscribed organisation Hezbollah at a London gig.

Kneecap member charged with terror offence

Liam Ó hAnnaidh, 27, has been charged after allegedly displaying a flag in support of Hezbollah, the Met Police says.

www.bbc.com

It's horrible on both sides, but you seem to ignore all the the sexual violence by and beheading of gay people by Hamas, which is just as utterly deplorable as bombing babies to bits by Israel. You seem to be very one sided and brain washed by Hamas propaganda.

Ad hominem remarks like this are unwarranted and unwelcome.

Consider this a general warning for all.

 

[picard102]

In the Toronto area, Thornhill, York Centre, and Eglinton-Lawrence are the most "Jewish" ridings, with significant populations in Toronto-St. Paul's and Don Valley West. In Montreal, it's Mount-Royal (Housefather), followed by NDG-Westmount and Outremont, plus smaller populations in the St-Laurent riding and two or three West Island ridings. There are a scattering of ridings elsewhere, in Ottawa and Winnipeg in particular.

In general, Thornhill tends to lean more conservative, while York Centre is quite a mix, especially since it's a very east-west riding that extends into the Downsview and York University areas, which are largely Italian, Black, Turkish, and Latin-American. Even the east side of the riding is not majority Jewish, with a large Filipino-Canadian population.

As a York Centre person myself, all the campaign material I get from Lib/Con seems to mention how they're personally connected to the holocaust and Israel. Despite it being no longer a majority Jewish area.

 

[Mihairokov]

As a York Centre person myself, all the campaign material I get from Lib/Con seems to mention how they're personally connected to the holocaust and Israel. Despite it being no longer a majority Jewish area.

If it's a large enough voting bloc they'll target it. As of 2019 York Centre was nearly 14% Jewish:

Estimation of the Jewish Population

Information for Jewish Electors.

www.elections.ca

It's not often you find ridings with large enough cultural blocs to target like this, but they do occur. York-Centre, for example, has nearly 8,000 residents who speak Tagalog at home, which works out to roughly 8%.
https://electionsanddemocracy.ca/print/pdf/node/35120 (PDF)