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My parents are technophobes.

They refuse to get any bills or banking statements emailed to them because they feel it is not secure or that they may not see it. My father refuses to get direct deposit for any government cheques because he does not understand technology all that well.
Wonder if they still use an automobile with manual transmission?
 
Not turning a profit is one thing, running massive deficits while having a reputation of being unreliable and inflexible is another.
I can't say much for mismanagement here, but cutting them back is going help with the latter? History rarely looks favourably on this.

...and my point still stands.
 
I can't say much for mismanagement here, but cutting them back is going help with the latter? History rarely looks favourably on this.

...and my point still stands.

Service quality isn't always a function of headcount - organizational culture and attitude also matter. I am sure everyone who had experienced missed or failed deliveries by CP are acquainted with both aspects. I mean, did we see an improvement in service despite a marked decline in throughput (while having a more or less stable headcount)?

The union - in their unwillingness to accept any concessions - had basically created a scenario where far more radical changes will happen to CP.

AoD
 
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I think Canada Post moving to community mailboxes for the remaining 25% of homes that don't have them yet is fine. It was pretty inequitable that some homes still receive home delivery.

Reducing frequency is annoying, but I rarely get physical mail as is. So it kinda makes sense.
 
Service quality isn't always a function of headcount - organizational culture and attitude also matter. I am sure everyone who had experienced missed or failed deliveries by CP are acquainted with both aspects. I mean, did we see an improvement in service despite a marked decline in throughput (while having a more or less stable headcount)?

The union - in their unwillingness to accept any concessions - had basically created a scenario where far more radical changes will happen to CP.

AoD
All can be done without reduction in services....the idea here is not break something that's already broken, but to fix it and in a meaningful, accountable and proactive ways.

As for the union, it has do what is has to do in a reality of rising costs of living for good or bad. And I think it's not very helpful to blame them when they likely working in a system that's already broken to begin with....to which goes back to my first point above here.

Is it there to absorb public money for little benefit?
...but that's an opinion based on an assumption and assertion of what constitutes as a benefit and how that benefit is measured. Again, all we have to do is look South to see how that approach is problematic...and to put it mildly.

Or tl,dr: We can't solve our postal problems by going DOGE on it, IMO. >.<
 
I'd like to hear from @picard102 on why he feels so strongly that Canada Post, and in particular, to the door, daily letter delivery are so crucial to quality of life as to merit a subsidy.

Subsidies for emergency services are logical enough, you don't want 911 asking for your VISA number.

Its equally understandable to subsidize transit as one can see the desirability of doing so, that there is no real private sector alternative, nor does any seem feasible, and too high a price or too low a service level carry adverse economic impacts.

Similar justifications exist for subsidizing healthcare, schooling and even electricity (though this grates as it can promote wastefulness) but there is a logic there. We pretty much all need electricity and a high price can leave some in the lurch.

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As with many here, I rarely get letter mail these days, all my deposits and bills and bill payments are handled online.

The exceptions I can think of.........Voter Cards, A jury duty summons, despite my clicking to move everything possible online, I still get maybe 2 things a year from the bank for changes in terms of service or some prospectus update...... and I think I still get my annual insurance renewal that way. Though the payments are online.

Its hard for me to imagine how the world will go to hell if I only get mail on Tues, Thurs and Saturday instead of daily M-F; as I expect most weeks there will still be zero in the box that isn't a flyer.

I'm not opposed to keeping CP afloat........but there is a limit, and I don't see the service reduction as savage.
 
I speculate a lot of this came over the past 10 years from the senior union members close to retirement who already saw the writing on the wall this was inevitable and required, but still made aggressive stances against any change as their ethos was simply "hold out until I get what's mine" and they have now dumped a notionally defunct and useless organisation onto the new generation of CP workers.

We could have had a graceful long-term wind-down. They chose to grab as much as they could and run before it blew up.
 
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One problem with my e-mail is that sometimes they end up in the "JUNK" folder. Generally, I flag "spam" e-mail as "JUNK", but somehow regular e-mail gets flagged accidentally. Have to check my "JUNK" folder looking for correspondence I'm expecting and "unjunk" them. Does repeat unfortunately.

A bit like Post Office mail being delivered next door.
 
I speculate a lot of this came over the past 10 years from the senior union members close to retirement who already saw the writing on the wall this was inevitable and required, but still made aggressive stances against any change as their ethos was simply "hold out until I get what's mine" and they have now dumped a notionally defunct and useless organisation onto the new generation of CP workers.

We could have had a graceful long-term wind-down. They chose to grab as much as they could and run before it blew up.

Indeed. People don't suddenly stop being people just because they are a part of a union.

AoD
 
One problem with my e-mail is that sometimes they end up in the "JUNK" folder. Generally, I flag "spam" e-mail as "JUNK", but somehow regular e-mail gets flagged accidentally. Have to check my "JUNK" folder looking for correspondence I'm expecting and "unjunk" them. Does repeat unfortunately.

A bit like Post Office mail being delivered next door.

Try unsubscribing first, that's quite successful. My SPAM folder is mainly for outright scams.
 
I am sensing here there a number of posters here who are in a financial position who don't need or rely on PC. And perhaps assume everyone else is in that same boat...

...what was it I said once? One of great crimes against humanity is taking the position of what is good for you is good for everyone else It's not.

Either way, I am not convinced that PC needs to be done away with based on personal anecdotes and opinions. I agree, that it needs improvement. I don't agree it needs to be trashed or scaled back to bare minimum and/or Randian essentials. That's not being progressive, that's going the other way, IMO.
 
My parents are technophobes.

They refuse to get any bills or banking statements emailed to them because they feel it is not secure or that they may not see it. My father refuses to get direct deposit for any government cheques because he does not understand technology all that well.
I'm actually one of those who prefers physical mail and cheques for its "tangibility", and prefers the old-school going-to-the-teller method of paying cheques because, well, I like going out and doing stuff physically. Likewise with ordering prescriptions. And I simply do *not* "get" those who prefer delivery apps to physical grocery shopping. Then again, I was the rare kind of kid who actually looked forward to family shopping trips--so if these are the kinds of people for whom such trips "sucked", that's their problem...
 

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