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GameOnBrad said:
King and Church is definitely close to being finished. They are not working this weekend though from what I can see.

I think they will be done next week.

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The tracks will certainly be done but they then need to fix the sidewalks and, I think, grind and repave the roads. Of course, getting the track done does not mean streetcars will restart at once, they need to connect the new electrics and test the overhead, I understand the plan is to bring the streetcars back just after Labour Day. The City have also marked lots of sub-standard sidewalks on Church between The Esplanade and, at least Dundas. I assume they hope to fix them this year too.
 
DSCToronto said:
The tracks will certainly be done but they then need to fix the sidewalks and, I think, grind and repave the roads. Of course, getting the track done does not mean streetcars will restart at once, they need to connect the new electrics and test the overhead, I understand the plan is to bring the streetcars back just after Labour Day.
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Normally the board change is just before Labour Day. Right at the end of August this year.
 
ShonTron said:
Just in time for TIFF to kick the streetcars back off King.
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Monarch Butterfly said:
Yet they could turn it into a transit mall, with the streetcars moving slowly through. Would be faster for the streetcars than doing all the detours.
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The York Street bypass was built with special events in mind beyond the Ontario Line construction. The 504 can now go up Charlotte along Adelaide, then back at York and vice versa along Richmond and down Spadina. It's a fairly short detour that only needs to occur during certain hours of the film festival.

All the pieces they've been talking about for years are now in place. They'll host activations in David Pecaut Square and N/S streets like Peter and Duncan and red carpet events and closed street events during limited windows where streetcars effortlessly follow alternate paths ad-hoc. I'm looking forward to seeing it being executed this year.
 
nightstreak said:
The York Street bypass was built with special events in mind beyond the Ontario Line construction. The 504 can now go up Charlotte along Adelaide, then back at York and vice versa along Richmond and down Spadina. It's a fairly short detour that only needs to occur during certain hours of the film festival.

All the pieces they've been talking about for years are now in place. They'll host activations in David Pecaut Square and N/S streets like Peter and Duncan and red carpet events and closed street events during limited windows where streetcars effortlessly follow alternate paths ad-hoc. I'm looking forward to seeing it being executed this year.
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Unfortunately, the one piece they did NOT do was to install a southbound track for the ca 150 meters on York from Adelaide to King and add a curve at King. This MIGHT occur when they rebuild the King/York special trackwork next year but the TTC have a habit of forgetting about such things! An additional curve - east bound King to North bound York - was (at least theoretically) approved in 2010 and if a southbound track was added it would need a south bound York to east bound King too. . See: https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/.../2010/July-14/Reports/Optimal_Turnarounds.pdf
 
Also Adelaide only allows for an eastbound detour, right? If Westbound still has to detour via Queen I'm not sure how much was gained with the new track
 
ward10 said:
Also Adelaide only allows for an eastbound detour, right? If Westbound still has to detour via Queen I'm not sure how much was gained with the new track
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Yes, and no. Having Adelaide from Church to Spadina certainly gives an added option and Richmond is westbound from Church to York. As noted above, the TTC should certainly add a short block of southbound track on York from Adelaide to King and add some curves. Unlike Adelaide, which once linked to Bathurst, Richmond has never had tracks west of York and it is really too narrow to allow it now.
 
I can understand there are operational benefits of the new Adelaide track west of York, but for the TIFF closure specifically, it seems like a westbound-only diversion onto Queen is almost as disruptive to the 501 as a two way diversion?

Is there a specific point where you think Richmond is too narrow to accomodate a westward track extension?
 
ward10 said:
I can understand there are operational benefits of the new Adelaide track west of York, but for the TIFF closure specifically, it seems like a westbound-only diversion onto Queen is almost as disruptive to the 501 as a two way diversion?

Is there a specific point where you think Richmond is too narrow to accomodate a westward track extension?
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Most of the block between Peter and Spadina is narrow and it has a (small) hill. Of course, it is POSSIBLE to put streetcar tracks in a regular traffic lane and regrade a bit but .....
 
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DSCToronto said:
Most of the block between Peter and Spadina is narrow and it has a (small) hill. Of course, it is POSSIBLE to put streetcar tracks in a regular traffic lane and regrade a bit but .....
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Yet in Europe, they run their trams on narrower streets than in Toronto.
 
Yeah, now that we've seen 512 diversion service up the Bathurst hill with the Flexities, the little Richmond rise must be surmountable

But from a network impact perspective maybe you'd want to avoid diversions onto Spadina, so the track could turn south at Peter
 
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