[BrenWilson]

tbf FWLRT seems much less problematic technically and they've been running frequent training vehicles for a while now so there is probably less need for a bedding period than ECLRT. Good to hear though! There's still some key roadwork that needs to be completed but nothing that probably impacts line operation.

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

It sounds like finch west lrt control will be handed over to the ttc next week and testing is running better than crosstown and dare I say. Could open before crosstown.


Interestingly Lindsey didn't talk about this bedding in period during the confrence....hmm

I heard that before about the possibility of Finch opening before Eglinton. Having said that, there needs to be transparency as to what's happening with the proposed MUP under the CP rail line between Signet-Arrow and Weston. CPKC is so awful with such construction co-ordination they make Metrolinx look good!

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

It sounds like finch west lrt control will be handed over to the ttc next week and testing is running better than crosstown and dare I say. Could open before crosstown.


Interestingly Lindsey didn't talk about this bedding in period during the confrence....hmm

Oh!! They fixed the broken platform windows?

 

[nfitz]

Finch is certainly getting a free ride with the media and everyone so focused on Eglington.

Good timing for them!

 

[Steve X]

tbf FWLRT seems much less problematic technically and they've been running frequent training vehicles for a while now so there is probably less need for a bedding period than ECLRT. Good to hear though! There's still some key roadwork that needs to be completed but nothing that probably impacts line operation.

I do think Alstom (pre merger) did a better job building the vehicles than BBD did with the flexitys. So there’s less problem with that plus the line is straightforward.

 

[drum118]

I do think Alstom (pre merger) did a better job building the vehicles than BBD did with the flexitys. So there’s less problem with that plus the line is straightforward.

Are you sure about that?? It was taking TTC 8-12 days to put a car into service with BBD building them. It was taking 18-24 days for the Alstom order that it is up to 34 days with 4 more to come. Both BBD and Alstom had a few cars that took close to 60 days to get into service after being off loaded.

Finch is flying under the radar due to the fact there are a lot less problems with it than Eglinton which are Apples and oranges in the first place.

Edit:
Back in 2012 my first ride on a Europe LRV was in London UK on an BBD and Stadler car with the Stadler car setting the benchmark for other LRVs on my trip. My ranking of the various LRV's when I left Europe and still is the same after our 2022 trip.

Statder
Soaka
CAF
Siemens
Hyundai Rotem
Alstom
BBD

 

[smallspy]

I do think Alstom (pre merger) did a better job building the vehicles than BBD did with the flexitys. So there’s less problem with that plus the line is straightforward.

I disagree.

The first thing I noted on the Ottawa cars on their first day in service was the uneven and sometimes monsterous panel gaps. The second thing I noted was that the flooring had not been bonded evenly to the solid floor underneath. Neither of those things I had noted in any of the Toronto cars that were then being delivered.

Dan

 

[dowlingm]

Are you sure about that?? It was taking TTC 8-12 days to put a car into service with BBD building them. It was taking 18-24 days for the Alstom order that it is up to 34 days with 4 more to come.

They are longer vehicles to be fair - more to go wrong?

 

[T3G]

They are longer vehicles to be fair - more to go wrong?

I think the comparison was between the BBD built downtown streetcars compared to the Alstom built ones.

 

[drum118]

They are longer vehicles to be fair - more to go wrong?

TTC are BBD 29m while Finch are 45m by Alstom.

Line 6 and Hurontario cars are the same as Ottawa.

Line 5 and TTC cars are BBD but different models

As to more going wrong with longer cars, Why??

Why are systems moving from 4/5 sections to 7 and 9 sections??

 

[Steve X]

TTC are BBD 29m while Finch are 45m by Alstom.

Line 6 and Hurontario cars are the same as Ottawa.

Line 5 and TTC cars are BBD but different models

As to more going wrong with longer cars, Why??

Why are systems moving from 4/5 sections to 7 and 9 sections??

Finch was designed for 60m trains. The use of the 48m trains limits expansion and is a reduction of capacity.

 

[yoshirocks702]

No pics but they finally paved the Weston and Finch intersection, the only substantial construction left is the MUP under the CP bridge and the associated paving between Weston and Arrow Rd, no work has progressed here in months from what I saw. I wonder if they will open the line without this work being completed, if not it will delay the line as it looks like it would a few months worth of work.

 

[nfitz]

Finch was designed for 60m trains. The use of the 48m trains limits expansion and is a reduction of capacity.

The current platforms (at least at Jane) look to be (using the measuring tool on the City interactive map) to be about 50 metres. With the area protected for a future platform being about 100 metres. Even the station box at Humber College seems to be long enough for a 100-metre platform.

Though I'd think by the time they need trains rather than a single 48-metre car, that they'd be into new equipment anyhow. I don't see a concern here.

 

[drum118]

The current platforms (at least at Jane) look to be (using the measuring tool on the City interactive map) to be about 50 metres. With the area protected for a future platform being about 100 metres. Even the station box at Humber College seems to be long enough for a 100-metre platform.

Though I'd think by the time they need trains rather than a single 48-metre car, that they'd be into new equipment anyhow. I don't see a concern here.

Both line 6 and Hurontario platforms are 50m's long at present time that can be expanded to 100m.

Line 6 will have a harder time adding the phase II for the platform extension than Hurontario that is using the same LRV. Both lines will be seeing work done at nighttime and slow going for the extension being built during the day. Line 6 is full concrete at track level while Hurontario stations are seeing concrete for 2 LRV's including the future station.

The Hurontario platform extensions area for the time being will have shrubs and flowers for the 4 curbs in the centre that will be remove when the platform expansion happens along with the 2 centre curbs. The 2 outside curbs will support the rebar for the new extension with one end remove to allow the connection to the existing platform. We are looking at about 20 years for the expansion has to happen for either line and only once the headway start to get down to 90 seconds.

How much are you loosing going to 45-48m LRV on opening day than a 29m or 2 29m LRV mu?? Going with 45-48m on day one gives you far more capacity than needed and maintain the same headway for at least 10 years on opening day..

 

[BrenWilson]

No pics but they finally paved the Weston and Finch intersection, the only substantial construction left is the MUP under the CP bridge and the associated paving between Weston and Arrow Rd, no work has progressed here in months from what I saw. I wonder if they will open the line without this work being completed, if not it will delay the line as it looks like it would a few months worth of work.

Oh good, I had to flag the raised manholes the other week as I watched a few cars nearly bottom out going over them and had to flag the traffic markings earlier in the summer as they'd completely worn away. Can't wait for the underpass to get going as its really the last major piece of road infrastructure left.