Islington Express Bus
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Well in October, we got this post:
That showed a section of the tunnel already fully formed.
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That showed a section of the tunnel already fully formed.
nfitz
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I believe that's a separate project than the connection between Dundas West and Bloor stations.
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bearcat
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So looking at these plans the connection doesn't really have a true long tunnel section per se. It's mostly stairs and elevators.
And based on the photo from this link they are already doing some sort of work within the underground garage:
Mrgeosim
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Just came across this presentation, which includes some timelines: https://assets.metrolinx.com/image/...inx/BTTC_K4T-_CLC_Deck_December_12th_2024.pdf
nfitz
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max
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The Eglinton experience has taught Metrolinx that if you don't tell the public the delivery date, no one can blame you for being late
drum118
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April 1
Jaye101
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I keep hearing there's no space for another platform to service Milton trains at Bloor GO, but it sure looks like there's more than enough room. It would be really useful for Milton trains to have a connection here.
smallspy
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There is only a space for a platform for the Milton Line there if they don't build a second track for it.
Dan
crs1026
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And without a second track, some interesting operability constraints arise for those anticipating 2WAD to Milton.
Pick your poison.
- Paul
Metroscapes
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I gotta say, it was nice for the one summer that I commuted from Kipling to Union, with no stops inbetween. Even if it meant stepping into a sardine can.
Google says taking the subway takes 27 minutes, whereas a GO train takes 21 minutes to Union, so it'd be what, 10 minutes to Bloor GO? I can see some people paying a buck and a half (or 90 cents for a trip further afield) for 17 minutes of time savings, but it'd benefit such a small group of people.
crs1026
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The saving grace in transferring from the Milton GO at Kipling is, you are pretty certain to get a seat. Transferring at Bloor would possibly save a few minutes, but if you are boarding Line 2 at that point you are likely standing - and rubbing plenty of shoulders. Some will prefer that, some won't. Of course if you are going cross town, it saves a transfer at Union.
I really can't guesstimate how big that ridership would be. The point is, that facility comes at the expense of greatly limiting headways on the Milton line, because that one-track platform has to serve trains in both directions - so it chokes the throughput of the line, even if the double track resumes immediately south of Bloor. Can't have both.
- Paul
Sauga89
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Could you not simply use the space for the rail path for an extra track/platform? And perhaps then elevate the rail path on a pedestrian bridge over the platforms if you wanted to preserve the rail path?
Or if that still doesn't provide enough space, maybe you could wedge in a short platform serving only some cars on the south side of Bloor?
If you worked around Bloor and Yonge, it would shave 13 minutes each way off of a Milton line commute by transferring at Bloor GO instead of Kipling, or 26 minutes per day. A 48 minute trip from Cooksville GO becomes a 35 minute trip.
smallspy
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The Rail Path is on the exact opposite side of the corridor from where the Milton Line operates.
So it's not just another platform, it's many hundreds of metres of track realignment to go with it.
And then there's dealing with the neighbourhood who fought quite hard against Metrolinx for the Rail Path, as Metrolinx would have much rather not had the path in their way.
So yeah......that's a non-starter.
Dan
Northern Light
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A couple of questions for you Dan. I'm not taking an advocacy position here, I'm just curious.
There appears to be surplus space in the current aerial photos on the west side of Bloor GO/Stn.
Pink is the property line, but I stopped drawing the distance marker where the visual indication of a building exists.
That distance is 7.5M from the edge of the existing track to the apparent building wall.
That should allow for one additional track and a somewhat shallow platform by my math.
Thoughts?
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Second question, since I'm here picking your brain, which I apologize for doing a great deal today.......
What's the full build-out plan for tracks north/west of Bloor Station? I see 5 laid today:
The measurement from noise barrier to noise barrier is ~38M which, my math suggests would support up to 9 tracks.......certainly 8, comfortably, leaving room for gantry posts.
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Finally, looking at the east side of the station (rail path), the City's ROW is ~9M or greater beside the station at all times, with a 2M buffer on the Mx side.
The minimum width of the path itself is for design purposes is 4M, assuming we allowed 5M for a space for lighting poles etc, and a 1M buffer beside the station, that provides 5 surplus M available with floating the path in the sky.
This section (below) is 12M, plus the buffer on the Mx side, but other parts are narrower:
If one had 5 surplus M, that would seem to be enough for an additional track w/o moving the platforms?
If this were the case, one needn't shift all the platforms over, one could shift some of the trains over, with Milton using the westernmost tracks, as it does today.
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As noted, I'm not arguing for any of the above, of that its a good investment; merely that there seems to be space to do something there. But I appreciate there may be reasons that what 'seems' to be there is not actually available for said purpose.