[evandyk]

That's the way I understand it. I'm not sure if, by convention, the incumbent party would have to go to Crown (GG) to seek a mandate to govern or could simply recall Parliament. Optically, I think it would be a good idea.

It's all about 'enjoying the confidence of the House', and there are many ways for a party to demonstrate that to the Crown. Push come to shove, I wouldn't put it past any party to support any other party on some set of favourable terms. It all boils down to wielding power.

The current governing party enjoys the confidence of the house until the new Parliament is convened and says otherwise, so the current governing party has the first right to go to the GG to ask for a mandate. Obviously in most cases, if there's another party holding the majority, that's pointless. But if the Liberals, with the support of the NDP, have the support of a majority, the GG would never say no. But in the scenario projected above, the Liberals wouldn't have a majority even with the NDP support. And they'd never get BQ support. The most likely scenario is the Liberal leader would concede to the PC leader the right to seek the mandate, since the alternative would be for the Liberal leader to embarrass themselves by having a quick vote of non-confidence.

 

[Towered]

Yes but can you imagine the reaction here?

It is common to do this in other countries but short of the failed NDP, LPC coalition that has never really happened here. It would cause alot of grief.

I'd be fine with it. I'm bored of the same-old, same-old, every election cycle.

 

[lenaitch]

Yes but can you imagine the reaction here?

It is common to do this in other countries but short of the failed NDP, LPC coalition that has never really happened here. It would cause alot of grief.

There never was a "coalition" government, where the NDP shared power, held Executive (cabinet) positions, etc. There was an agreement between two parties. We haven't had a coalition government since 1917.

 

[Northern Light]

In theory yes, but in practice no.

If the CPC win a minority mandate, you can't ask the LPC to form a government as that would be against the will of the people. I mean, in theory you could but if the LPC accepted it would probably start a constitutional crisis

No.

As I said, in theory but not in practice.

It is similar to the Governor General using reserve powers. Our system has them but in practice she cannot use them.

Also No.

As someone whose post-secondary education included this subject........(and no, not as a breadth requirement).....

Your assessment is incorrect.

The correct take has been offered both by @Mihairokov and @lenaitch.

Their offerings are wholly correct and require no further elaboration from me.

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I will note, confidence and supply agreements, which is the most common way minorities have been managed in Canada, at the provincial level, are not at all uncommon, and some have been quite recent.

The BC NDP first took government by deposing the Liberals with the support of the Green under just such an agreement.

This is same way that the David Peterson Liberals toppled the Frank Miller led PCs in Ontario back in 1985.

 

[wopchop]

No other party will work with the CPC in a minority situation. I can't remember my political conventions but if no party has a majority it falls first to the incumbent government to try and form, and if they cannot it goes to the next. Someone is free to correct me on this. It should go to the Liberals first to form. If not it goes to the Conservatives who would likely waste time trying to form before it would eventually go to the Liberals. I don't like thinking about the scenario where the CPC are dragging their heels on forming government, blaming everyone under the sun, while getting boosted by the US and its despicables trying to influence our election result and aftermath. I don't think we as a country can afford to give the CPC even a failed chance at a minority, or an election results where they have the most seats and/or vote totals.

Anything is possible. Especially in these times.
CPC with Harper went through two minority governments in 2006-08 and 2008-2011.
In November, you would be classified as insane for predicting a surge in LPC polling, but here we are.
After today's speech and the coming fight, I wouldn't even want to bet against Trudeau being re-elected if he ran. The world of 2025 is topsy turvy.

 

[ShonTron]

I bet Mark Carney will be running in Toronto Centre; Marci Ien is not standing for re-election.

I ended up on the local NDP association mailing list (I usually ignore them) but I just got this email.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

From Globe and Mail:

The Liberal Party has already booked a campaign plane and buses, purchased ad buys and developed a platform that will need to be integrated with Mr. Carney’s policies, a party insider said. The Globe is not identifying the insider who was not authorized to discuss election planning.

Should he win the leadership vote, Mr. Carney is expected to formally sit down with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday to discuss the transition to power that will likely see him and a new, slimmed down cabinet sworn in by Friday at the latest, the sources said. He is also expected to join Mr. Trudeau at a final Liberal caucus meeting Monday.

Over the past week, Mr. Carney has focused on issues including staffing the Prime Minister’s Office, cabinet selection, transition to government, recruitment of star candidates and drafting an election platform to take to Canadian voters, the sources said. A fourth source said former Privy Council Clerk Janice Charette is heading up the transition team, which will focus on the size of cabinet, updating briefing documents, filing ethics disclosures and lists of decisions to be made by the new government.

One of the Carney sources said that he may offer cabinet roles to Ms. Freeland and Ms. Gould. The source said Mr. Carney is unlikely to make changes to key ministers who have been handling U.S. relations, namely Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly and Public Safety Minister David McGuinty.

The three ministers represent safe ridings and can focus on dealing with the Trump administration during the election campaign, the source said.

But all three Carney sources stressed that no final decisions have been made by Mr. Carney.

 

[picard102]

This leadership voting process has been a complete shit show. Been trying to get them to send me my voter id for a month now, and the only campaign who's been willing to help was Karina's.
I doubt I will be able to vote despite being eligible and registered.

 

[PinkLucy]

A friend of mine also had a terrible time with it, although he did eventually get in

 

[afransen]

I bet Mark Carney will be running in Toronto Centre; Marci Ien is not standing for re-election.

I ended up on the local NDP association mailing list (I usually ignore them) but I just got this email. View attachment 635166

Chantal Hebert was speculating, perhaps based on some off the record information, that he might run in Alberta (Edmonton?). That would be more of a gamble than Toronto Centre.

 

[christiesplits]

I bet Mark Carney will be running in Toronto Centre; Marci Ien is not standing for re-election.

I ended up on the local NDP association mailing list (I usually ignore them) but I just got this email. View attachment 635166

Yep, that would be my bet. Apparently Carney has said he wants to run in his hometown of Edmonton, but that’s probably too risky.

 

[PL1]

This leadership voting process has been a complete shit show. Been trying to get them to send me my voter id for a month now, and the only campaign who's been willing to help was Karina's.
I doubt I will be able to vote despite being eligible and registered.

My wife and I had no problems at all. Voter verification and voting was simple

 

[afransen]

My wife and I had no problems at all. Voter verification and voting was simple

It was a bit convoluted. I can imagine some less technically-inclined people would have been put off by it.

 

[ShonTron]

Toronto Centre seems to be the place where “star” candidates are parachuted in, like Bob Rae (who lives in Baby Point) and Bill Morneau (who lived in Don Valley West, two ridings away). I don’t know where Ien lives, but she was also appointed to the candidacy.

There could be someone else, but I’m a little surprised that there’s no chatter about Ien’s sudden departure.

 

[picard102]

It was a bit convoluted. I can imagine some less technically-inclined people would have been put off by it.

I'm a web developer, so on the higher side of technically inclined. Yet their system seems to fail the basic test of having a complete list of registered liberals.
I have a welcome email from when I registered, and still they can not find my registration. This after 3 weeks of harassing them and emailing campaign offices to find any answer beyond the poorly formatted automated emails.