[ntt1]

I wonder if we'll ever see that parking lot next to Boston Pizza on Jasper Ave bite the dust. How long has that lot been empty?

 

[David A]

I wonder if we'll ever see that parking lot next to Boston Pizza on Jasper Ave bite the dust. How long has that lot been empty?

Decades. I feel this it is yet another example of poor planning by the city, probably mainly motivated by doing things on the cheap.

We will either have surface parking lots in front of our showcase park or if something is eventually built there the park may be hidden behind them.

 

[Out of Towner]

public parks do not equal private residences. just how much trouble is there in Alex Decoteau park?

Lots of people never locked their doors 50 years ago and there were no gates to restrict access to public parks. Alberta highways even had rest stops with a cook house and an adjacent little park that the public could drive into whenever they pleased. Then sometimes in the 1980's, barriers to prevent 24 /7 access began appearing because the rest stops became a magnet for parties and vandalism at night. Now most if not all of those little rest stops are gone completely because the public didn't respect them and they became too expensive for the Province to maintain. It would be a surprise if Willian Hawrelak Park will permit people to simply drive right in at night and do as they please. The days of the public "calling the tune" at a park because its a public facility and not a private residence are gone Constance. You're living in the wrong era. Public facilities lock their doors now - just like you do.

 

[ntt1]

Decades. I feel this it is yet another example of poor planning by the city, probably mainly motivated by doing things on the cheap.

We will either have surface parking lots in front of our showcase park or if something is eventually built there the park may be hidden behind them.

On the other hand, there’s a good opportunity for integration with the park if and when it gets filled. Especially if the CRU facing the park in the other building does well. There’s potential for revamping the Corona LRT station entrance nearby, too.

 

[Friendmonton]

Decades. I feel this it is yet another example of poor planning by the city, probably mainly motivated by doing things on the cheap.

We will either have surface parking lots in front of our showcase park or if something is eventually built there the park may be hidden behind them.

How is it the City's fault if the owner doesn't want to sell the land? They bought many parcels to make this park happen.

 

[David A]

How is it the City's fault if the owner doesn't want to sell the land? They bought many parcels to make this park happen.

If the city wants to expand the road in front of my home and I don't want to sell, it will happen anyways. It is a lack of will and effort.

As often is the case this city takes the easy sub optimal way out.

 

[MacLac]

I wonder if we'll ever see that parking lot next to Boston Pizza on Jasper Ave bite the dust. How long has that lot been empty?

It’s been said a million times before on here…..the Dude is stateside and doesn’t want to sell…..enough of this wishy washy….”why won’t he sell?” Sheesh

 

[TAS]

I wonder if we'll ever see that parking lot next to Boston Pizza on Jasper Ave bite the dust. How long has that lot been empty?

While construction of the park has been going the parking lot is seeing good business from all the workers.

And once finished, if people drive into Dt to see the park and do other things, it may continue to do decent business - kind of makes me sick.

 

[Friendmonton]

If the city wants to expand the road in front of my home and I don't want to sell, it will happen anyways. It is a lack of will and effort.

As often is the case this city takes the easy sub optimal way out.

The City can be criticized for many things, but this take is just foolish. There are trade offs when it comes to land purchases, swaps, and the installation of infrastructure. The City can't just go wild and scoop up every piece of land it wants (as if private investment isn't hard to come by enough). It's much more complicated than what you suggest, and in this case, it's certainly not due to a lack of will and effort. Without either, this park would never have happened and we'd be left with those parking lots.

 

[IanO]

It’s been said a million times before on here…..the Dude is stateside and doesn’t want to sell…..enough of this wishy washy….”why won’t he sell?” Sheesh

It's currently FOR SALE.

 

[MacLac]

WTF?! lol - and here I was trying to back you up since it was info that you provided many times.........

 

[TAS]

It's currently FOR SALE.

Seems like a great opportunity for Westrich to add to their portfolio along the signature Jasper Ave - our only entry on the original Canadian Monopoly Game (next to Go to Jail - almost seems appropriate).

 

[ChazYEG]

Smoke is an irritant to people with respiratory challenges such as asthma for one thing. Another is that the ashes left from a fire are messy and will need to be cleaned up by parks staff because nobody who starts a fire will wait until it goes out to clean up the ashes. It's possible that the pits will burn natural gas which would be cleaner than firewood but natural gas is an operating expenditure too. So the budget reason given for cutting out a water feature was bogus imho. Is it possible that fire pits were selected over a water feature because they're a better thematic fit with the renaming of the community?

The amount of smoke from 4 fire pits is negligible as far as respiratory issues go. Again, no one is burning industrial grade coal furnaces, and the way you talk about the fire pits it sounds like you're picturing late 1800s London, not a handful of spread out small fire pits in an open area. And for the same reason the amount of ashes is gonna be negligible (not to mention that they might run on natural gas, as you said).
It feels, to me, that this crusade has more to do with the possibility of these attracting "undesirables" to hang out than with anything objectively bad with the fire pits.

 

[Gronk!]

It's currently FOR SALE.

I keep reiterating this over and over and over and over again:
The City needs use some of that CRL to purchase this parking lot and use it to extend Warehouse Park c/w fountain.

 

[Glenco]

Lots of people never locked their doors 50 years ago and there were no gates to restrict access to public parks. Alberta highways even had rest stops with a cook house and an adjacent little park that the public could drive into whenever they pleased. Then sometimes in the 1980's, barriers to prevent 24 /7 access began appearing because the rest stops became a magnet for parties and vandalism at night. Now most if not all of those little rest stops are gone completely because the public didn't respect them and they became too expensive for the Province to maintain. It would be a surprise if Willian Hawrelak Park will permit people to simply drive right in at night and do as they please. The days of the public "calling the tune" at a park because it’s a public facility and not a private residence are gone Constance. You're living in the wrong era. Public facilities lock their doors now - just like you do.

“Fifty years ago people didn’t lock their doors….” Stopped reading.