[txlseries4]

Partial Line 2 closure for the weekend has been cancelled

 

[generalcanada]

I mean...when you shutdown the work cars....

 

[Bordercollie]

I mean...when you shutdown the work cars....

It was probably a crane or some attachment that uses hydraulics that had a failure and leaked hydraulic fluid everywhere.

Unless they are powered using hydraulics like some locomotives are but those are usually encased.

 

[Admiral Beez]

It was probably a crane or some attachment that uses hydraulics that had a failure and leaked hydraulic fluid everywhere.

Unless the hydraulic connections burst apart with the severity of a valve in Das Boot, there’s no excuse to contaminate any length of track beyond the immediate occurrence.

 

[Bordercollie]

Unless the hydraulic connections burst apart with the severity of a valve in Das Boot, there’s no excuse to contaminate any length of track beyond the immediate occurrence.

When it's not your problem to clean it up who cares?

 

[APTA-2048]

Unless the hydraulic connections burst apart with the severity of a valve in Das Boot, there’s no excuse to contaminate any length of track beyond the immediate occurrence.

Could have been a small, but not insignificant, gradual leak that went unnoticed for a while as the train moved about the line.

 

[Bordercollie]

Could have been a small, but not insignificant, gradual leak that went unnoticed for a while as the train moved about the line.

You wouldn't notice 300L?

 

[CMQSD402F9011]

Question, I heard TTC after 1998 was banned from buying high floor buses especially with wheelchair lifts. I wonder why though, even TTC missed out on getting the NFI D60HF Artics which would’ve been better hence the D60HFs were found to be performed better on NYC streets.

 

[Bordercollie]

Question, I heard TTC after 1998 was banned from buying high floor buses especially with wheelchair lifts. I wonder why though, even TTC missed out on getting the NFI D60HF Artics which would’ve been better hence the D60HFs were found to be performed better on NYC streets.

I think there was a pause on buying articulated buses due to them not being as reliable. Remember the Orion III's were a problem due to corrosion and had to be retired early.

The LFS artic was their first step to get arrive again.

Also they split the D40LF order with 50 RTS', I think that was due to delivery schedule?

They should have gotten the LFS instead of RTS. They were quite problematic and because of the design of the wheel chair lift it couldn't carry as many people.

 

[Richard White]

Question, I heard TTC after 1998 was banned from buying high floor buses especially with wheelchair lifts. I wonder why though, even TTC missed out on getting the NFI D60HF Artics which would’ve been better hence the D60HFs were found to be performed better on NYC streets.

Having wheelchair lift on a high floor bus was misleading.

Just because you can get on a high floor bus with a wheelchair doesn't mean you can get off it.

If the lift fails after a wheelchair user gets in it is problematic.

 

[CMQSD402F9011]

I think there was a pause on buying articulated buses due to them not being as reliable. Remember the Orion III's were a problem due to corrosion and had to be retired early.

The LFS artic was their first step to get arrive again.

Also they split the D40LF order with 50 RTS', I think that was due to delivery schedule?

They should have gotten the LFS instead of RTS. They were quite problematic and because of the design of the wheel chair lift it couldn't carry as many people.

Back in early 1997. TTC had a D60LF demo on their property and used on tests. And then later had plans to buy 155 artics in 1999-2001. Per the UCRS February 1997 pdf online

 

[CMQSD402F9011]

Having wheelchair lift on a high floor bus was misleading.

Just because you can get on a high floor bus with a wheelchair doesn't mean you can get off it.

If the lift fails after a wheelchair user gets in it is problematic.

In the U.S. high floor buses got many more years because wheelchair lifts were compliant and mandatory on all bus orders from 1990 onwards

 

[T3G]

Having wheelchair lift on a high floor bus was misleading.

Just because you can get on a high floor bus with a wheelchair doesn't mean you can get off it.

If the lift fails after a wheelchair user gets in it is problematic.

Not at all true. Wheelchair lifts can be manually pumped. It's not very pleasant work, but it's definitely not entrapment. If it were, how would GO be allowed to still be receiving high floor coaches with lifts in the year 2026?

Obviously, low floors are better for accessibility, but try to remember that the wheelchair lift came about in an era where the low floor bus was in its infancy. A high floor vehicle with a lift is superior to one without.

because of the design of the wheel chair lift it couldn't carry as many people.

???

How exactly did the design of the wheelchair lift affect passenger capacity???

 

[McGillicuddy]

Not at all true. Wheelchair lifts can be manually pumped. It's not very pleasant work, but it's definitely not entrapment. If it were, how would GO be allowed to still be receiving high floor coaches with lifts in the year 2026?

Might be a matter of necessity. There aren't a lot of low-floor motorcoaches on the market.

 

[T3G]

Might be a matter of necessity. There aren't a lot of low-floor motorcoaches on the market.

Well, there are the double deckers we had. Granted, apparently those weren't very good so that's why they went back to the MCIs, but if the DDs were unreliable and wheelchair lifts were that unreliable that loading a passenger onto a bus with one was essentially entrapment, then surely they could waive the requirement for CanCon and get any number of European DDs, from makers such as Volvo, Neoplan, or formerly Van Hool. After all, accessibility should surely be more important than protectionism.