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TRONto said:
https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-united-states-needs-fewer-bus-stops/

TTC has done some stop 'controversial' consolidation in the past on the streetcar routes.

Thought I'd post this article about stop removal for those who might be interested.
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One needs to take into consideration the walking distance from side streets between stops , but stops needs to be 450-500m apart except at major crossroads with transit on them. Nice stop longer spacing stops for those who live next to a route but not fund for those that don't live on the route especially at this time of the year.

Time TTC start over ruling ward councillors objections for removing stops as far too many still too close to each other with some seeing only a few riders a day.
 
drum118 said:
One needs to take into consideration the walking distance from side streets between stops , but stops needs to be 450-500m apart except at major crossroads with transit on them. Nice stop longer spacing stops for those who live next to a route but not fund for those that don't live on the route especially at this time of the year.

Time TTC start over ruling ward councillors objections for removing stops as far too many still too close to each other with some seeing only a few riders a day.
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You have lines like the 507 which often has one person getting on/off at every stop in Etobicoke. It seems more like the streetcars spend more time waiting for doors than actually moving. So yes, it's time to get rid of some stops. This goes for routes using longer vehicles to carry more people like artic buses too.
 
CMQSD402F9011 said:
Question, when most of the NYCTA’s subway fleet including the R46s which did get Full on rebuilds. How come the TTC H4s, H5s and even the H6s didn’t get Full on rebuilds unlike the GM New Look buses from the 1990s to 2004. Didn’t it had to do with the Mike Harris Transit cuts that affected the full rebuilds on the H4s or the H5s at the time?
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Why are you assuming that the TTC didn't rebuild any of their equipment?

Dan
 
drum118 said:
One needs to take into consideration the walking distance from side streets between stops , but stops needs to be 450-500m apart except at major crossroads with transit on them. Nice stop longer spacing stops for those who live next to a route but not fund for those that don't live on the route especially at this time of the year.

Time TTC start over ruling ward councillors objections for removing stops as far too many still too close to each other with some seeing only a few riders a day.
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For the Spadina Streetcar, I recently emailed the mayor and the local counselor Saxe about removing stops and closing intersections and.... got no response. I think there is enough public focus on the slow speed of our streetcars that now is the time to be able to remove some stops on Spadina and get it moving faster.
 
TRONto said:
For the Spadina Streetcar, I recently emailed the mayor and the local counselor Saxe about removing stops and closing intersections and.... got no response. I think there is enough public focus on the slow speed of our streetcars that now is the time to be able to remove some stops on Spadina and get it moving faster.
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Good for you for writing in (sincerely) we need more of that.
 
drum118 said:
Yes as well Mississauga and Ottawa fleet using the same model with no changes for all three lines
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Huh. So the company that's responsible for the massive failure that is Line 6 is now going to get the contract to replace all the rolling stock for Line 2? This will end well.
 
hawc said:
Huh. So the company that's responsible for the massive failure that is Line 6 is now going to get the contract to replace all the rolling stock for Line 2? This will end well.
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They are the only one in Canada that can build TTC equipment here and meet the 55% content requirement and timetable that I am aware of. Going to the US is out of the question under stupid Trump small brain.
 
How about Europe? China?

It feels like whenever Canadians are forced to use Canadian suppliers we don't get the best results.
 
Just to clarify...

Alstom will manufacture 70 state-of-the-art, six-car Metropolis metro trains for the Toronto Transit Commission (TTC)
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1. Are these still going to be in pairs/triplets, etc., because, Greenwood (I'm imagining REM pairs, even in triplets, but in red, of course..)?
...Or will it be a full six-car set with two cabs, able to be broken down into smaller sets, with or without a cab, and run them in the shop, and put it back as a set when work is done?

2. And if it is in pairs, etc., with a cab at each end, how will evacuations be carried out if the emergency exit is off-set between each mini-set?
 
TDE said:
Just to clarify...


1. Are these still going to be in pairs/triplets, etc., because, Greenwood (I'm imagining REM pairs/triplets, but in red, of course..)?
...Or will it be a full six-car set with two cabs, able to be broken down into smaller sets, with or without a cab, and run them in the shop, and put it back as a set when work is done?

2. And if it is in pairs, etc., with a cab at each end, how will evacuations be carried out if the emergency exit is off side between eat mini-set?
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These will be six-car trains that can easily be broken down into sets of two. Open gangway throughout with egress at both ends.

This supplier has been mentioned being involved with the TTC:

www.railwaygazette.com

Automated train gangway coupling system to be tested in Toronto

INNOTRANS: Hübner has unveiled its AutoCouple concept for the fully automated coupling and uncoupling of inter-car train gangways. A trial on the Toronto subway is planned for 2025. Rather than being a direct replacement for conventional coach gangways, AutoCouple aims to make it easier for...
www.railwaygazette.com www.railwaygazette.com
 
hawc said:
How about Europe? China?

It feels like whenever Canadians are forced to use Canadian suppliers we don't get the best results.
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Well that’s not exactly true. The Bombardier (and now Alstom) Bilevel has been wildly successful. As has been the ICTS/Innovia Metro.

You can look at all the previous rolling stock for Toronto and Montreal too. Some outliers in Toronto with teething problems and a bit of a dud with the H6, but none of our rolling stock has been what I would call a disaster.

Even the LFLRVs had a bad start, but Bombardier and Alstom seemed to have cranked out 60 more cars with no issue.
 
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CMQSD402F9011 said:
Wouldn’t the H4 and H5 rebuilds be considered overhauls or light rebuilds?
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The H6s are the ones that got a light refurb, only to be retired a short 7 years later. The H5s were rebuilt in the 1990s (saved them from getting replaced with more T1s), and 50% of the H4s were rebuilt in the very early 2000s (iirc) to keep running another decade (rush hour only).

APTA-2048 said:
but none of our rolling stock has been what I would call a disaster.
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Not even the H6? Those were always treated like disasters, everyone made it sound as if they could never even leave the yard without breaking down, even though in reality they completed plenty of trips without having to be taken out of service, and probably just had a lower MDBF.

What vehicle would be an example of a disaster?
 
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