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txlseries4 said:
TTC could learn how to laugh at itself and flip the commentary around with really trivial stuff like this... the majority of reactions are about how ridiculous it sounds, not that it justifies people riding for free. A great marketing team would have a hay day with the role title and reactions. This is what I thought of on the fly

"Caught by a Provincial Offensives Officer and you'll be in shit"
"Pay your fare and avoid the P.O.O. No one likes stepping in it"
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They probably can't use the same words, but treating it with humour will go far. Much further than looking like an old, trouble-riddened organization with a questionable public image being super uptight about owning their own goal.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
Yep, the CP24 clip include a shot of the tweet, attributions and all.

As to the latter - Sir, this is not a Wendy's*,

* Wendy's are known to have sassy SM - particular Twitter presence,



Not anymore



Honesty, I am more concerned about how much the new uniforms cost - considering there is practically no change in the nature of the job (the whole giving authority argument is DOA considering it's now POO by default).

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There is no real change in duties - it is all a stupid waste of (OUR) money. Making the Fare Inspectors POOs does not really change their duties only (perhaps) increases their authority.
 
DSCToronto said:
There is no real change in duties - it is all a stupid waste of (OUR) money. Making the Fare Inspectors POOs does not really change their duties only (perhaps) increases their authority.
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It's all very silly that they are highlighting what every other group with such POOs don't mention. But a waste of money? To sew a fabric badge onto a uniform? I wonder how much it costs a boy scout when they get a new badge.

It seems odd now that we are required to give POP to a POO.
 
nfitz said:
But a waste of money? To sew a fabric badge onto a uniform? I wonder how much it costs a boy scout when they get a new badge.
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Is it only a change to the pre-existing uniform? The press release seems to suggest it's an entirely one, which would make sense because at the same time they're debuting new driver uniforms next year (also a staggering waste of money).
 
nfitz said:
I haven't noticed any other difference other than the badge, when I've been checked.

What did you notice?
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I haven't seen any in person yet, or even photos of the new uniform, my sole source of info was the press release. But every fare inspector I've encountered has been wearing one of these two shirts... if there was a grey one out there I've never seen it.

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T3G said:
That's exactly it - if they hadn't explicitly called attention to it, I doubt anyone would have even noticed. They orchestrated their own PR crisis. And all for... what? Who was asking for the uniform update? How does this improve the transit system in any way?

Regardless of one's tolerance for immature jokes, you either have to be oblivious or 300 years old not to notice the implication, and easy material for the inevitable smear campaign when these upstanding citizens next overstep their boundaries. Having an intern get defensive about social media doesn't look great in my book. But, then, such a refusal to accept the egg on one's face is pretty emblematic of the institutional inertia of the TTC.
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I feel like the majority of the PR for city departments is PRETENDING they're doing something, hence the anger when people point out it backfired.
 
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T3G said:
I haven't seen any in person yet, or even photos of the new uniform, my sole source of info was the press release. But every fare inspector I've encountered has been wearing one of these two shirts... if there was a grey one out there I've never seen it.

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I can't really see the shirts in that photo, just the vest and jacket there. It was baking the other day, so they weren't wearing anything that heavy.

I'd assume they go through a fair number of shirts in a year ...

It still said Fare Inspector in big letters. The POO label was similar in location and relatively similar font size to the TPS name badges.

Next time a POO POPs me I'll try and ask if I can take a photo.
 
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The biggest question that should be asked is whether new title is what really mattered - or whether this exercise is a do-nothing checkbox response to the AG report.

T3G said:
I haven't seen any in person yet, or even photos of the new uniform, my sole source of info was the press release. But every fare inspector I've encountered has been wearing one of these two shirts... if there was a grey one out there I've never seen it.

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Now if they want something to chew on - it is how this fare inspection arrangement slow down alighting and causing further delays for the passengers - especialy when there is bunching.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
The biggest question that should be asked is whether new title is what really mattered - or whether this exercise is a do-nothing checkbox response to the AG report.



Now if they want something to chew on - it is how this fare inspection arrangement slow down alighting and causing further delays for the passengers - especialy when there is bunching.

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If you are going in this direction you should also ask why charge fares at all as doing this causes 'bunching' at fare gates and fare machines.
 
DSCToronto said:
If you are going in this direction you should also ask why charge fares at all as doing this causes 'bunching' at fare gates and fare machines.
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Not quite - fare gates bunching doesn't cause vehicle(s) filled with passengers to get stuck and unable to dismembark, whereas bunching at fare machines can be mitigated (Presto autoload, etc). The issue in this particular instance doesn't negate the need for fare inspection - only to highlight the inadequacy of the current arrangements.

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nfitz said:
It seems that 12-year old kids are offended by the TTC's asinine comments about 12-year old kids.

I'm amazed that the TTC hasn't even deleted that prejudiced tweet, let alone apologized.

"Poo-crew" - I'll have to remember that!

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The media office claims that the tweet on X is making fun of adults who treat something as serious as fare evasion with the same reaction as snickering at a rude word like a child 😂 😂
 
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