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reinventingthewheel said:
Nevermind looks like it’s been redone. However there is still the issue of no Northbound track on Charlotte.
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An eastbound detour would go King, up Spadina, and east on Adelaide.

The problem is cars would have to use Queen westbound, and they don't want to confuse people (though I agree with the earlier that they should be using this as the detour, to better serve those near King, and relieve whatever what pressure they can on Queen.

I'm surprised they are putting 503 on Shaw, instead of just keeping it on Queen and then going south on Dufferin. There's plenty of other service on King. Heck, why not just loop it at McCaul - run it as a 502.
 
reinventingthewheel said:
Nevermind looks like it’s been redone. However there is still the issue of no Northbound track on Charlotte.
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How long do expect Charlotte to be out of service as well the westbound King line and Adelaide to put in the track, switches and the overhead system???
 
reinventingthewheel said:
The Adelaide tracks between Charlotte and York have no OCS and are disconnected at Charlotte. There is also no NB track on Charlotte.
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Not sure what you mean about no OCS and disconnected track on Adelaide. There is a perfectly viable NEW track and overhead on Adelaide all the way from Spadina to Church. You are correct that Charlotte is a southbound street only. The TTC rationale for NOT using eastbound Adelaide from Spadina to York for the 504 eastbound diversion was that it would be 'confusing" for passengers as the 501 turns at York.
 
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Cyrobyte said:
I know that this is unrelated to the current discussion but this is an interesting fun fact:

Kipling station is the southernmost TTC subway station
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How do you figure that? Union is further south:
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nfitz said:
On my computer it shows that Kipling is lower on the page than Union. And that line is slanted from upper right to lower left. So Kipling is further south.

Is it showing up differently on your screen?
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What I linked in the screenshot is how it displays on my screen. Kipling appears higher up on the map than Union.
 
T3G said:
What I linked in the screenshot is how it displays on my screen. Kipling appears higher up on the map than Union.
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How something shows on a screen is NOT how you measure degrees of latitude or longitude and if you really care which subway station is furthest south (which is of ZERO interest to me!) You should use proper measurements.
 
DSCToronto said:
How something shows on a screen is NOT how you measure degrees of latitude or longitude and if you really care which subway station is furthest south (which is of ZERO interest to me!) You should use proper measurements.
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Correct, in which case you’ll find that Kipling is latitudinally further south. Very amateur stuff guys!
 
DSCToronto said:
How something shows on a screen is NOT how you measure degrees of latitude or longitude and if you really care which subway station is furthest south (which is of ZERO interest to me!) You should use proper measurements.
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As long as the map is set to the default rotation with North being exactly towards the top of the screen, I fail to see why not (at least for local measurements for which the Earth's curvature can be neglected). It's at least a fairly accurate way to measure the angle between true North and the "North" on Toronto's grid.
 
T3G said:
What I linked in the screenshot is how it displays on my screen. Kipling appears higher up on the map than Union.
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How unusual - there must be some kind of rotation that you see on the image on your screen, that I don't see on mine.

This is what I see when I read your post on my screen, with Kipling lower on the map than Union, rather than higher. How does yours differ?
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reinventingthewheel said:
Correct, in which case you’ll find that Kipling is latitudinally further south. Very amateur stuff guys!
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In my case, true north is up. So relative direction will work fine visually. As it does in this case.

At least on this scale. Perhaps you are thinking of the effects from the curvature of the earth? Which are not relevant for such small distances.
 
Admittedly, it depends on exactly where Google has attributed "Kipling" and "Union" to, but if you right click on those labels on google maps, Union is noted at 43.646 degrees north, while Kipling is noted at 43.637 degrees north. Exhibition is at 43.636, at least where Google says the current streetcar loop is.

Each degree is worth about 111 km, so we're talking about a 10 metre difference in distance from the equator, roughly. So it really depends on where you take your measurement from for each place. But basically, they're all the same.
 
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evandyk said:
Admittedly, it depends on exactly where Google has attributed "Kipling" and "Union" to, but if you right click on those labels on google maps, Union is noted at 43.646 degrees north, while Kipling is noted at 43.637 degrees north. Exhibition is at 43.636, at least where Google says the current streetcar loop is.

Each degree is worth about 111 km, so we're talking about a 10 metre difference in distance from the equator, roughly. So it really depends on where you take your measurement from for each place. But basically, they're all the same.
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You’re off by one order of magnitude.
 
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