[Kyle Campbell]

There definitely wasn't any rioting. Some stores on Yonge did board up because of what was happening in the States as a precaution, but they were just being cautious, there wasn't any specific threats

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...p-downtown-toronto-possible-protest-1.5594356

 

[DSCToronto]

 

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Well, that sounds like it's either going to delay the streetcar return or make it so that we have another disruption at some point in the future.

I was optimistic at the beginning of January when I saw this at the rear of the 320 property:

 

[DSCToronto]

Well, that sounds like it's either going to delay the streetcar return or make it so that we have another disruption at some point in the future.

I was optimistic at the beginning of January when I saw this at the rear of the 320 property:
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Yes, working on the expropriation now does seem bit late. Not sure whether they can open the streetcar station again before this gets dealt with. This from Steve Munro may be of interest https://stevemunro.ca/2023/09/18/streetcar-queues-at-spadina-station/

FWIW TTC website still says reopening in March 2025 https://www.ttc.ca/about-the-ttc/projects-and-plans/Spadina-Avenue---overhead-upgrades

 

[nfitz]

Yes, working on the expropriation now does seem bit late. Not sure whether they can open the streetcar station again before this gets dealt with.

They aren't close to awarding the main construction project. As far as I know the current work is just an early works project. Utilities perhaps (complete guess).

 

[turbanplanner]

I have not idea what you are referring to.

I'm concerned that you are making references to black rioting and threats in Toronto that I honestly don't recall. Can you link to this?

The point is it never happened. Nor were threats made of it happening. Saying we had riots is a lie, and not even a clever one.

There definitely wasn't any rioting. Some stores on Yonge did board up because of what was happening in the States as a precaution, but they were just being cautious, there wasn't any specific threats

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...p-downtown-toronto-possible-protest-1.5594356

Dozens of retailers, including ones whose stores span entire blocks felt the risk was high enough to justify boarding up their storefronts.

I know most of the riots are in the states but there was a lot of damage in other Canadian cities.

11 arrested, dozens of businesses damaged after Montreal anti-racism rally

It was one of many protests held across North America following the death of George Floyd, who died in Minneapolis last week after pleading for air while a white police officer pressed a knee on his neck.

www.thestar.com

 

[picard102]

Dozens of retailers, including ones whose stores span entire blocks felt the risk was high enough to justify boarding up their storefronts.

So again, no riots happened. Nor were any threatened.

 

[nfitz]

So again, no riots happened. Nor were any threatened.

What's the word to describe someone who makes up stories about fictitious riots and threats at black protests?

Montreal arrests more than that and have more damage anytime the Canadians make the Stanley Cup final. It's normally worse when they win.

Was there much protesting on the TTC?

 

[Northern Light]

I don't know if @smallspy or one our engineers might have insights, but I have a couple of questions around structural works I've seen in the subway lately.

First, Main Station:

Some of the old vertical beans and/or their cross-braces have been replaced by new metal supports. I don't recall seeing these used before in a station.

I'm curious as to the nature of the work, whether these are the new permanent supports and if so, why not the traditional beams? Also, is the TTC going to paint them black to match?

 

[Northern Light]

Second question around structure.

I've been watching the evolving work at Spadina station on the streetcar platform concourse.

My pics from January 31st, 2025:

I examined these from several angles....... I couldn't ascertain they were actually supporting anything. In most locations they don't touch the ceiling, but where they appear to, I don't see any beams or key structure. I assume I'm missing something, but was just curious if others had insights.

 

[DSCToronto]

I don't know if @smallspy or one our engineers might have insights, but I have a couple of questions around structural works I've seen in the subway lately.

First, Main Station:

Some of the old vertical beans and/or their cross-braces have been replaced by new metal supports. I don't recall seeing these used before in a station.

I'm curious as to the nature of the work, whether these are the new permanent supports and if so, why not the traditional beams? Also, is the TTC going to paint them black to match?

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To my untutored eye they do not look like structural supports, more like supports for the 'wiring trellis' that is at Line 1 stations like King (I assume for ATC). As ATC is eventually coming to Line 2, could this be the precursor?

 

[turbanplanner]

What's the word to describe someone who makes up stories about fictitious riots and threats at black protests?

Montreal arrests more than that and have more damage anytime the Canadians make the Stanley Cup final. It's normally worse when they win.

Was there much protesting on the TTC?

I’m not the one who started that conversation (that was North yorker) I just wanted to point out the police, as well as the businesses thought there was enough of a threat to justify some action.

The new leader of the liberal party promised she would make transit more safe, out of all the things going on if that’s something she mentions I feel like it’s on a lot of people’s minds!

 

[81-717]

The funding is not in limbo.

Yes, I'm sure.

The tender closes January 28th, 2025.

There is zero chance a new government is sworn in prior to that.

Sure a new government could, in theory, legislate a legal tender as moot and compensate the winner.............in the real world.........this is very unlikely to happen. This is not a controversial project.

So the deadline has passed. Has the tender been closed? Or called off? Have the feds actually signed the funding contract, beyond just "promising to commit funding"? Munro mentioned that if the government changes before the current government signs the contract, it'll never see the light of day, and that a new government scrapping the PTF isn't that unlikely.

 

[Northern Light]

So the deadline has passed. Has the tender been closed?

Yes.

But it hasn't been awarded yet. Closed means no more submissions are allowed.

Now Commission staff have to review the bids for compliance, and any stated exceptions to tender criteria, then, assuming the bids came within budget, they would, normally, go to a Commission meeting for approval unless the CEO has specific, delegated authority.

Or called off?

No.

Have the feds actually signed the funding contract, beyond just "promising to commit funding"?

Don't know.

Munro mentioned that if the government changes before the current government signs the contract, it'll never see the light of day, and that a new government scrapping the PTF isn't that unlikely.

Always possible and have great respect for Steve, but disagree here.

 

[nfitz]

Always possible and have great respect for Steve, but disagree here.

Another factor is that the earliest election date is currently May 5, 2025 (unless something dramatic happens and Parliament is recalled). So no new PM until mid-May.

Over 3 months