DtTO
Active Member
AFAIK, Bingz is Canadian; it's one of my favorite fast food places. I need to go there soon; thanks for the reminder
AFAIK, Bingz is Canadian; it's one of my favorite fast food places. I need to go there soon; thanks for the reminder
Jm gravel
New Member
Come on Toronto. Take the Union Station taxi/ uber area seriously.
Northern Light
Superstar
AFAIK, Bingz is Canadian; it's one of my favorite fast food places. I need to go there soon; thanks for the reminder
Not Canadian, no.
Founded in China in 2014.
Did you spend time in Beijing? They have 140 locations there!
Mihairokov
Active Member
Was in Beijing for three days and did not see one! We really underestimate the scale of some of these Chinese cities.
Toronto1834
Active Member
So... those big blocks on Front Street that have replaced the jersey barriers. As some have pointed out they were vandalized pretty quickly. The City then attempted to wash off the graffiti. This faded it, but it did not fully remove the graffiti. Today I was on Front and noticed that the cream coloured blocks that had the graffiti have now been *painted white* to cover it up. This is going downhill even faster than I anticipated.
AlvinofDiaspar
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Maybe they will paint them like they did with the Jersey barriers and call it "beautification".
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Dan416
Senior Member
I do see a lot of people sitting on them these days tbh. So they're somewhat useful in that respect.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Dan416
Senior Member
Just noticed a truck by the barriers belonging to a company called “Goodbye Graffiti”
EnviroTO
Senior Member
Those blocks they installed are a complete hindrance to pedestrian flow. Hopefully they are temporary and the city realizes that proper bollards are the right solution here, but considering they cut into the attractive pavers they installed not that long ago I'm guessing someone thinks this is a good permanent solution. I have seen the crash tests of "real" security bollards and they are very effective. These replacements, besides being wide, fairly unattractive, and an obstacle to the throngs of pedestrians trying to get past them, aren't very tall. At that height I would question their effectiveness in stopping many vehicle types.
Jonny5
Senior Member
I don't know how true it is, though this sounds plausible, I read that proper and effective bollards that can stop things like trucks need heavy anchors under them, but there's no foundation there to hold them as the subway tunnel and station concourse are too close street level to have the necessary heft to hold those so it could stop a truck without causing the road or sidewalk to collapse.
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AnnetteMeetsJane
Active Member
If they were really worried about vehicle incursions, the effective solution would be to pedestrianize that section of Front and keep vehicles out of there.
nightstreak
Active Member
New wayfinding for the taxi loading zone
I saw this happen, or at least being written over. It’s the taxi mafia in front of the station. If you sit and observe them, they compete with one another, sometimes get violent (yes, I’ve seen them push and shove other taxi drivers), hover over people as they come out of the station harassing them to take a taxi. I’ve witnessed cabbies kick cars (presumably Ubers) stopped in the loading zone.
The city needs to police this. The councillor for the area of the station doesn’t care. I’ve written her office and called her and haven’t even gotten a response.
They’re not temporary. It took them literal years to procure these and they chose the worst solution, and the worst option that this supplier provided. There were blocks with seating and they chose the cheapest most basic ones. Same supplier:
The whole problem here is that this is all just security theatre. The jersey barriers are still there but far enough apart that a car can drive through. So what was their point?
You see thousands of people walking down Bay Street at rush hour, no barriers, only to have barriers in front of their last 10M of commute to Union. What does that solve?
All these do is hinder pedestrian flow.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I would guess that is partly true in that without enforcing the structure under the pavers the load wouldn't be transferred well, especially with a shallow depth install. However, by lifting out the pavers, installing steel plates that extend from one bollard to the next and have penetrating rods to distribute the load to the surrounding area, they could easily have engineered a solution.
Shallow bollard, without unique load transferring engineering and construction below the surface of the pavers.
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Some of the design options passed up on.
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rdaner
Senior Member
Taken 13 September. Didn’t realise that the south concourse is two levels.
