MG X said:
sed, of course, but what the heck is going on? Why is the city allowing the city's central hub to be turned into a tourist ripoff site? No wonder everyone uses Uber now. The taxi industry is cutting its own throat while the city dithers over security barriers!
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I'd love to keep my money in Toronto, but everytime I give taxis another chance, I go through this bullshit too. I told one once that I worked for licensing at the city when he refused my ride at Exhibition Place. He told me to "f*ck off, I dare you!"
 
Hi Jason. Did you actually work for Licensing? I did for a brief time back around 1993. Just wonder if we may have crossed paths.
 
ceaz40 said:
Hi Jason. Did you actually work for Licensing? I did for a brief time back around 1993. Just wonder if we may have crossed paths.
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No, not at all. I just thought it would make him follow the rules, but instead he got angrier and told me to to f-off.
 
...abusive service operators who want my money get nothing. At all.
 
mferna said:
Take a look at how much Toronto's Union Station has transformed since it began its revitalization process a decade ago. https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2025/0...tion-marks-decade-bay-concourse-closure.59250
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Thank you. It's getting harder to remember what it was like!

I miss a few things, like the Dairy Queen, and the cheaper (though much more limited) food options. The new concourses are nicer and provide more access to the platforms and to the subway and PATH. But I do find the pedestrian flow a bit annoying in the new Bay concourse. Wide spaces = more opportunities for mobile phone zombies cutting across the main flow of commuters... the older ones with more hallways and restricted pathways seemed better for that.

I'll probably be long retired by the time this is done, if it ever is (I have 10+ more years of work ahead of me, most likely commuting at least part of the week)
 
ScreamingViking said:
Thank you. It's getting harder to remember what it was like!

I miss a few things, like the Dairy Queen, and the cheaper (though much more limited) food options. The new concourses are nicer and provide more access to the platforms and to the subway and PATH. But I do find the pedestrian flow a bit annoying in the new Bay concourse. Wide spaces = more opportunities for mobile phone zombies cutting across the main flow of commuters... the older ones with more hallways and restricted pathways seemed better for that.

I'll probably be long retired by the time this is done, if it ever is (I have 10+ more years of work ahead of me, most likely commuting at least part of the week)
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The huge open space is great for the subway crowd, particularly during events.
 
APTA-2048 said:
The huge open space is great for the subway crowd, particularly during events.
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Definitely. But there has been a number of times I've bumped into someone or seen someone else crash into someone crossing perpendicularly to the flow and not paying attention. Have also seen people trip over a crosser's pulled luggage. There's no way to help that, as it comes down to stupidity and carelessness. But it happens a lot now, vs. hardly ever in the ancient version. So my head is on a swivel.

At least they got rid of all those dreadful stairs between the train and subway stations. They caused a lot of havoc (and I recall a bottleneck getting into Union subway from the train concourse). I love what they've done to cover the trench and make it a usable space.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
They also need to mark down no standing areas (both in the TTC subway and GO concourse). The TTC concourse in particular should be an absolutely no waiting area - and for the love of god, make the fare gates unidirectional.

AoD
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People seem oblivious to signs.

I preferred the old gates too -- simple and functional. For the most part people are pretty polite about letting others through, but the new gates seem to add time. Another peeve is people whose PRESTO card doesn't work then get out their phones, and everyone waits while they log in and load their app, then when that doesn't work the person often realizes their account needs more funds, and there's a lineup behind them.

People. :rolleyes:
 
ScreamingViking said:
People seem oblivious to signs.

I preferred the old gates too -- simple and functional. For the most part people are pretty polite about letting others through, but the new gates seem to add time. Another peeve is people whose PRESTO card doesn't work then get out their phones, and everyone waits while they log in and load their app, then when that doesn't work the person often realizes their account needs more funds, and there's a lineup behind them.

People. :rolleyes:
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I don't prefer the old gates at all - it is just that the new gates are inappropriate for this volume. Also they wasted space right by the booth which could accommodate at least two more gates.

The worst is when they decide to inspect fares right behind the gates at the height of rush. Like can we get more foolish than that?

ScreamingViking said:
My bitching aside, the "revitalized" Union is much better. I lost patience for the commute and especially other commuters during the pandemic and it's yet to return... and I'm sure I've p-o'ed other people at times as well.
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But it could have been so much better - especially considering how much the proverbial "we" spent on it. If you think it is bad now, wait till 5 days RTO plus return of the students.

AoD
 
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I have no issues with what they did on the concourses or the retail/food court or any of that. My only issues with Union are (1) the platforms being so narrow and not having addressed this at the time (2) the shed having been maintained when there was a perfect opportunity to remove it. I really see no reason to have maintained it. It's ugly. Period.
 
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