DavidCapizzano said:
No but planners and urban design staff can (and do) make requests for changes to architectural expression based on taste and vibes, not on the basis of what is required within the planning act.
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Whether they are able to get those changes they request or not (they can't really force them)... but that doesn't happen that often, and it doesn't happen at Council.

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interchange42 said:
Whether they are able to get those changes they request or not (they can't really force them)... but that doesn't happen that often, and it doesn't happen at Council.

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Idk, it happened here, with no 31... they literally required a dumb datum line be added to the facade of the Georgian. If you read the detailed revision lists on resubmissions it's very common. The architect / developer can definitely rebuff and I've seen that happen, but still, it shouldn't be happening!

Not sure "it doesn't happen at council" has any relevance when the councillors will often just defer to staff, so if staff are requesting specific architectural treatments, why would council intervene if the best practice is to defer to their expertise?
 
interchange42 said:
Whether they are able to get those changes they request or not (they can't really force them)... but that doesn't happen that often, and it doesn't happen at Council.

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Municipal Planning staff love to ask for things they aren't really authorized to. And for applicants, it's not usually worth the battle over it unless the ask is egregious as long as it gets them to the much-revered positive staff report to council.
 
DavidCapizzano said:
Idk, it happened here, with no 31... they literally required a dumb datum line be added to the facade of the Georgian. If you read the detailed revision lists on resubmissions it's very common. The architect / developer can definitely rebuff and I've seen that happen, but still, it shouldn't be happening!
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innsertnamehere said:
Municipal Planning staff love to ask for things they aren't really authorized to. And for applicants, it's not usually worth the battle over it unless the ask is egregious as long as it gets them to the much-revered positive staff report to council.
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Right, but again, that happens through the planning process, even if it's outside strictly normal procedure, and not at Council. The post of mine that got this started was responding to a member who claimed that it's Council who asks for "more blue glass condos." Please!

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