Natika33
Active Member
^This would be my preferred parking solution too. Imo, it's better for traffic flow, snow removal, street cleaning, etc. It also allows for narrower streets which are easier to cross & feel safer.
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bearcat
Active Member
Actually I looked at these maps you posted on the computer today and to me it looks like what's being rebuilt now is the old course of Munitions Street (see black lines on the new plan below, with location on the new map confirmed by the outline of the building that's pointed out by the red arrow), which is planned to be completely removed and replaced with a New Munitions Street further east as per your maps. And that's assuming the street layout doesn't change further as per @milkycontent above. So I do think what's being built now for Munitions Street is all temporary.
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rdaner
Senior Member
^I do know that with traffic on Cherry a nightmare at certain times the businesses on Villiers need another access road. Also the amount of construction equipment using the roads is high and likely to increase so any more options on top of the Don Roadway will be critical.
PasticheProtégé
Active Member
More cars isn’t the answer to creating a great neighborhood here.
It’s depressing to see how many cars already roam the streets here on a regular basis. Transportation is desperately needed before anything of significance is built.
It’s depressing to see how many cars already roam the streets here on a regular basis. Transportation is desperately needed before anything of significance is built.
chrishurley15
New Member
Biidaasige Park grand opening on July 19th and 20th. Biidaasige Park - City of Toronto
abovegrade
Active Member
Yes, Allies and Morrison always go against the grain and SLA as well, so it is safe to say that they will probably cook something up that will make us happy
evandyk
Senior Member
Or at least happier than the current plan
ADRM
Senior Member
I've spent a lot of time on the Island the last few weekends departing and returning from a ferry dock near Ashbridge's Bay, so can now first-hand confirm what a horrendous cluster-you-know-what the traffic problem is here already, before you add any park users who will arrive vehicles on the scene.
On each of those days, when I left around dinner time, the traffic was backed up on Cherry from, no exaggeration, the Strauss Trunnion Bridge, to Mill Street (!!!!) -- backed up as in stop-and-go -- and along Commissioners from Cherry (or New Cherry, should I say?) to just before the new Commissioner Street bridge.
The major drivers of the traffic seemed to be both the club(s?) at the Docks and the few large charter boats (River Gambler et al) that load on the south side of the driving range. I gather some of that will soon be going away in favour of residential development, but that will obviously bring its own vehicular movements (though likely spread a little bit more evenly throughout the day), but I guess I'm just not sure the City understands how big a problem it has here, and how badly it will compromise the success (and safety) of all this new parkland that three levels have just spent upwards of two billion dollars delivering...
rdaner
Senior Member
^I have heard that from some people. I think that people understand that there are alternatives to getting there and there are as many walkers/cyclists/scooters as private vehicles. I hold out some hope for water transport as Ports Toronto has been threatening it for a while and the market is likely there.
As an aside I used Unwin to go to the Cruise Terminal last week when there was a backup and sailed through! And perhaps move the charter boats to be accessed south of Shipping Channel?
I have full confidence that 1) people will figure it out and 2) this will be a heavily used park from day 1!
Question: Will water craft be allowed to access the Estuary on the 19th?!
As an aside I used Unwin to go to the Cruise Terminal last week when there was a backup and sailed through! And perhaps move the charter boats to be accessed south of Shipping Channel?
I have full confidence that 1) people will figure it out and 2) this will be a heavily used park from day 1!
Question: Will water craft be allowed to access the Estuary on the 19th?!
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DSCToronto
Superstar
For the parking lot & Munition Street fans here are some updates.
First the Don Roadway now has curbs poured.
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Then the parking lot is clearly taking shape.
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and finally, Munition Street has been paved. The fact they did not put down a solid concrete road base (they put asphalt on top of compacted gravel) means either it is a minor road or it is seen as a temporary arrangement or maybe both! (It is paved and has new sidewalks only in the south 100 meters or so, not sure if they intend to do same thing in the northern section between where this ends and Villiers St but I suspect they will as they are also working ON Villiers.
First the Don Roadway now has curbs poured.
and
Then the parking lot is clearly taking shape.
and
and finally, Munition Street has been paved. The fact they did not put down a solid concrete road base (they put asphalt on top of compacted gravel) means either it is a minor road or it is seen as a temporary arrangement or maybe both! (It is paved and has new sidewalks only in the south 100 meters or so, not sure if they intend to do same thing in the northern section between where this ends and Villiers St but I suspect they will as they are also working ON Villiers.
DSCToronto
Superstar
They were clearly busy today. Looks to me as though the Don Roadway is ready for paving and the parking lot is getting 'landscaping' (or, at least, earth!)
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rdaner
Senior Member
Watercraft/activities will be allowed on 19!
GameOnBrad
Active Member
There is a lot more going on here than a simple street. Taken today...
And one of the fences has been taken down along the park. Just the fence by the bike lanes remain...
And one of the fences has been taken down along the park. Just the fence by the bike lanes remain...
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DSCToronto
Superstar
I cycled over to the Spit today and can report that the landscaping to the car park on north side of Commissioners has moved on more today and there are strange metal barriers (quite interesting) - they look as though they have been recycled from a building or a bridge. The old Fire Hall now has most of its windows too.
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AlvinofDiaspar
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I think those beams are salvaged from the MT 35 warehouse that was burnt down a couple of years ago.
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