GameOnBrad said:
Actually, to be fair, there is public transit there already. Bus Route 202. There are also sidewalks and bike lanes that have been there for a long while now. I walk through there all the time. Just the parks areas are not accessible at the moment.

Now, keeping the cyclists off the sidewalks is another matter entirely.

Edit: This is a 20 year project that was only announced in 2017, if I remember correctly.
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Also bus 114 the Queens Quay East bus runs right through the area. Is it enough? Of course not but it is not 'nothing'
 
mcbg1 said:
It’s too big of a project for them. The land should have been sold to a developer to get things moving faster. I don’t think it’s acceptable that only small sections of the park are opening this year and it’s being hailed as as a huge progress when it’ll be hard to enjoy those spaces when they’ll be immediately next to construction for years and it’ll be difficult for most residents of the city to across them, again for decades. Too much money has been spent on this project given how inaccessible it’ll be to most people and there won’t even be locals to enjoy either since housing is decades away from being built. An absolutes farce.
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mcbg1 said:
Whoever is in charge of this project is paid too much money with little to show for it. It's unacceptable that we we are literally decades away from the area having decent public transit and housing. It has been an absolute waste of taxpayers money to get these little bits of parklands done when people won't be able to get there easily.
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Candidates for least informed comments of the year award.

AoD
 
DSCToronto said:
Also bus 114 the Queens Quay East bus runs right through the area. Is it enough? Of course not but it is not 'nothing'
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And they also have the new route planned. All the related construction projects need to complete as well. Waterfront LRT Extension Segment 1, 2, and 3. Segment 3 is key to this island. I don't recall the TTC or City giving a date for Segment 3 yet. It might be too early at the moment.
 
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GameOnBrad said:
And they also have the new route planned. All the related construction projects need to complete as well. Waterfront LRT Extension Segment 1, 2, and 3. Segment 3 is key to this island. I don't recall the TTC or City giving a date for Segment 3 yet. It might be too early at the moment.
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Dream on! I have been involved in the consultations on this since about 2008 and, much as I want to see the QQE LRT built, we will not see anything physical for at least 5 years. See: https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/waterfront-transit-reset-phase-1-study.25504/page-134
 
mcbg1 said:
It’s too big of a project for them. The land should have been sold to a developer to get things moving faster. I don’t think it’s acceptable that only small sections of the park are opening this year and it’s being hailed as as a huge progress when it’ll be hard to enjoy those spaces when they’ll be immediately next to construction for years and it’ll be difficult for most residents of the city to across them, again for decades. Too much money has been spent on this project given how inaccessible it’ll be to most people and there won’t even be locals to enjoy either since housing is decades away from being built. An absolutes farce.
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Perhaps someone with better knowledge could jump in, but my understanding is that no developer would touch this area as the soil required remediation due to high levels of toxins. As this section of the city has historically been industrial the cost to remove the toxic soil made it prohibitive to develop anything (recreational/residential/commercial) due to the liability.
 
Midtown Hank said:
Perhaps someone with better knowledge could jump in, but my understanding is that no developer would touch this area as the soil required remediation due to high levels of toxins. As this section of the city has historically been industrial the cost to remove the toxic soil made it prohibitive to develop anything (recreational/residential/commercial) due to the liability.
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A bigger problem was that it was a flood plain and the primary purpose of the WT work has been to remove that obstacle and open up the larger area for development.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Candidates for least informed comments of the year award.

AoD
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...been skirting the event horizon of my quiet dungeon for sometime now. Just waiting for this person to say something repugnant and it will be the deserved /silence from my end for the ages.
 
How have the water levels gone up here?
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Don’t think I’ve noticed this pad on the north side for Keating beside the bridge.

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Some tree growth on the western edge

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Are they… fish?

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GameOnBrad said:
I almost don't want development with views like this...

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Sure, but if we don’t put up super tall towers and maximize density in this specific location alone, we’ll never solve the housing crisis for the entire nation.

I do wish I could push fast forward on development and see what it turns out like any which way.
 
xmyth_ said:
Sure, but if we don’t put up super tall towers and maximize density in this specific location alone, we’ll never solve the housing crisis for the entire nation.

I do wish I could push fast forward on development and see what it turns out like any which way.
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I am a bit obsessive over the renderings for this island and it's future plan/layout. I'm glad they are building up but I do wish the majority of it was affordable and rental housing and maybe cool off a little bit with the condos. At least the parks on the west side intend to leave a tremendous amount of open space to enjoy the lakeshore and the cityscape.
 
GameOnBrad said:
I am a bit obsessive over the renderings for this island and its future plan/layout. I'm glad they are building up but I do wish the majority of it was affordable and rental housing and maybe cool off a little bit with the condos. At least the parks on the west side intend to leave a tremendous amount of open space to enjoy the lakeshore and the cityscape.
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Im torn in what to do with it, because I’d love to see some measure of civilization, but I really do think the island of it is going to matter. Put in economic controls and you risk segregating folks, let it be a free for all and it becomes a gated community of sorts for rich people. Retail and offices have enough trouble downtown without being sectioned off by two bridges.

In a perfect dream world, the Science Center is so successful on Don Mills, that it gets an ecologically centered location here, in concert with higher education which would have research facilities and student/educator/researcher housing. But maybe I need to be on shrooms for that.
 
Ironically, this video just popped up for me.

Is there something to learn from another relatively isolated, former industrial space in Canada? Granville Island?

Edit: dude reloaded the video it should now be here

 
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