christiesplits said:
As per Matt Elliott via City Hall Watcher, the gas plant has hired lobbyists to advocate for its continued operation (paywall).
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The PEC doesn't stifle development in a huge way, in areas to the south, but generally would deliver a height cap in the range of 30-34s based on its emissions profile.

It would be a great impediment to anything closer such as the fantasy over on the Hearn site.

Now....what's interesting is that this isn't the only big money vs big money battle (PEC vs Real Estate interests); one in which all 3 levels of government stand to benefit in leases/sales/property tax/assessment growth etc.

There's another player with an interest in keeping the heights down.........though they have generally declined to articulate that publicly........ LOL
 
I assume that the cement people have the same issues as the PEC. There's a lot of stuff still down there that's pretty incompatible with dense development creeping closer and closer. That'll have to be resolved, but over decades.
 
evandyk said:
I assume that the cement people have the same issues as the PEC. There's a lot of stuff still down there that's pretty incompatible with dense development creeping closer and closer. That'll have to be resolved, but over decades.
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I think the McCleary District plan does a fairly good job accommodating the local film industry neighbours, although these sites obviously don't have smokestacks.
 
evandyk said:
I assume that the cement people have the same issues as the PEC. There's a lot of stuff still down there that's pretty incompatible with dense development creeping closer and closer. That'll have to be resolved, but over decades.
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The City has tried to create a 'Cement District" at east end of the Ship Channel and Turning Basin. I think that the last remaining downtown cement plant further west is the Lafarge one on Cherry @ Polson. Something is going on with it, not surethe OLT decision has become public yet. See: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.CC26.4
 
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lots of ducks and birds coming and going from this shallow section!
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installing some lights I guess

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xmyth_ said:
Got all excited for a new video drop. But this footage is from ages ago. How long has the crane been wrapped for? Cmon WT, we need more recent aerials.

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Whomever is making these drone videos must be getting lazy hehehe. I love how they keep saying part of that park will be "opening summer 2025". That means anytime between June 20th and September 25th. Narrowing it down to a month, instead of an entire season, is far more reasonable at this point.
 
Whoever is in charge of this project is paid too much money with little to show for it. It's unacceptable that we we are literally decades away from the area having decent public transit and housing. It has been an absolute waste of taxpayers money to get these little bits of parklands done when people won't be able to get there easily.
 
mcbg1 said:
Whoever is in charge of this project is paid too much money with little to show for it. It's unacceptable that we we are literally decades away from the area having decent public transit and housing. It has been an absolute waste of taxpayers money to get these little bits of parklands done when people won't be able to get there easily.
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Actually, to be fair, there is public transit there already. Bus Route 202. There are also sidewalks and bike lanes that have been there for a long while now. I walk through there all the time. Just the parks areas are not accessible at the moment.

Now, keeping the cyclists off the sidewalks is another matter entirely.

Edit: This is a 20 year project that was only announced in 2017, if I remember correctly.
 
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GameOnBrad said:
Actually, to be fair, there is public transit there already. Bus Route 202. There are also sidewalks and bike lanes that have been there for a long while now. I walk through there all the time. Just the parks areas are not accessible at the moment.

Now, keeping the cyclists off the sidewalks is another matter entirely.
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I live nearby so I can walk there but it still involves walking through and past a lot of construction which will last decades more. And that bus route is very infrequent and not that convenient for most people in Toronto and around the GTA. If this park is going to advertised as a major attraction, it needs to have easy ways for most people to get there and for the area to develop, it needs housing and transit ASAP. Waterfront Toronto is all talk, no show while they get paid big bucks every year.
 
mcbg1 said:
I live nearby so I can walk there but it still involves walking through and past a lot of construction which will last decades more. And that bus route is very infrequent and not that convenient for most people in Toronto and around the GTA. If this park is going to advertised as a major attraction, it needs to have easy ways for most people to get there and for the area to develop, it needs housing and transit ASAP. Waterfront Toronto is all talk, no show while they get paid big bucks every year.
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Waterfront Toronto is one of the few competent departments in the city IMO. They've delivered pretty much exactly what has been planned and have done so fairly transparently. Sugar Beach, Bathurst Quay, Canary District and Corktown Commons park and now the Lower Donlands. I get that its frustrating with how long construction takes, but this was a huge undertaking. They built a new part of the river and made it look natural with parklands included.
 
unrealestate said:
Waterfront Toronto is one of the few competent departments in the city IMO. They've delivered pretty much exactly what has been planned and have done so fairly transparently. Sugar Beach, Bathurst Quay, Canary District and Corktown Commons park and now the Lower Donlands. I get that its frustrating with how long construction takes, but this was a huge undertaking. They built a new part of the river and made it look natural with parklands included.
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It’s too big of a project for them. The land should have been sold to a developer to get things moving faster. I don’t think it’s acceptable that only small sections of the park are opening this year and it’s being hailed as as a huge progress when it’ll be hard to enjoy those spaces when they’ll be immediately next to construction for years and it’ll be difficult for most residents of the city to across them, again for decades. Too much money has been spent on this project given how inaccessible it’ll be to most people and there won’t even be locals to enjoy either since housing is decades away from being built. An absolutes farce.
 
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