EnviroTO said:
Depends if the subway is passing under buildings, water pipes, sewers, gas, and buried lines. Under a building it is really bad.
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Rome has it worse. Construction of the Rome Metro Line C began in 2007, and still under construction. Discovery of ancient ruins slow that construction. Toronto has "ruins" as well, but not as old. The First Parliament Site in Toronto, which hosted Upper Canada's first parliament buildings, is now slated for Corktown Station as part of the provincial Ontario Line subway project. Don't know what "ruins' they'll find at and around the Exhibition Station.
 
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EnviroTO said:
Depends if the subway is passing under buildings, water pipes, sewers, gas, and buried lines. Under a building it is really bad.
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Plus in the case of a subway through downtown, it has to pass under PATH tunnels and streetcar tracks. There's just too much infrastructure to do cut and cover anymore.

And thinking about it, just given where the stations are, cut and cover would have ruined the streetcar network. The 501 disruption isn't great as is, but cut and cover (assuming the same station locations) would have meant shutting down or significantly shortening the 501, 504, 510, and 511 (as they all pass over station sites)
 
max said:
Presumably they will run into the legendary tunnel from Fort York to the Wheat Sheaf!
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The Wheatsheaf Tavern is a well-known historic tavern located at the southwest corner of King Street West and Bathurst Street (667 King St W), which is the same location as the planned Ontario Line King-Bathurst Station. It's the oldest bar in Toronto, operating since 1849. So technically, there will be a "tunnel" from New Fort York & grounds (which the current Exhibition Place took over) to the Wheatsheaf Tavern. Maybe not "Old" Fort York.
 
kotsy said:
Once that TBM launch shaft is fully built, most of their horizontal supports should be removed, making the view from the bridge much better. That is, until the bridge is removed after the world cup.
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Seems silly to remove the bridge...
 
PL1 said:
Seems silly to remove the bridge...
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It's in the way of the new station

What's silly is that they built it in the first place. They should've just increased the width of tunnel to add the capacity. That is something they could have kept as part of the new station. But a the bridge they've installed is probably cheaper.
 
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PL1 said:
Seems silly to remove the bridge…
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kotsy said:
It's in the way of the new station
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Unless there was suddenly a change of plans, the temporary bridge isn’t being removed until the new station bridge is open.

The new station is far to the east of the temporary bridge, they are on opposing sides of Atlantic ave.
 
reinventingthewheel said:
Unless there was suddenly a change of plans, the temporary bridge isn’t being removed until the new station bridge is open.

The new station is far to the east of the temporary bridge, they are on opposing sides of Atlantic ave.
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reinventingthewheel said:
Unless there was suddenly a change of plans, the temporary bridge isn’t being removed until the new station bridge is open.

The new station is far to the east of the temporary bridge, they are on opposing sides of Atlantic ave.
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I've never seen anything about that bridge staying until the new station opens. However, you're right that the temp bridge doesn't appear to be in the way of the main building. Clearly they built the angled path of the bridge for a reason. Perhaps it's just so they can do footings etc. for the entirety of the new building while the bridge still stands.
 
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I guess it depends what "New Station Structure" in 2026-27 means. Does that mean the new structure is built out enough to replace the temporary bridge so that they can remove it while they finish construction? Because otherwise removing a bridge that isn't even in the way seems like it's just gonna make operations at the station worse for a while, but then again it's Metrolinx so maybe they just don't care.

As an aside, looking at that diagram, I hope at some point we move the streetcar stop closer to the station (either via moving/redesigning the loop or by adding the Waterfront West extension), because that transfer as it is currently shown sucks.
 
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