I have no doubt that it's way behind schedule, but it FEELS like it's moving along on pace, because we can see so much being created.

This morning, for instance I drove up Don Mills and could see the giant piers have reached the top of the valley all the way up from the valley floor.

We can see all the station construction and tunnelling and the white arch bridge etc.

Eglinton LRT by comparison became so maddening because for year it was just 'testing' the whole system was complete and it was just testing, testing and more testing. And fixing the crack in the foundation slab at Eglinton Station.
I imagine the testing on the OL will be even more intensive then it was on the Crosstown since the OL is entirely automated so it will need to achieve a higher bar of quality and safety before it's allowed to open.
 
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I imagine the testing on the OL will be even more intensive then it was on the Crosstown since the OL is entirely automated so it will need to achieve a higher bar of quality and safety before it's allowed to open.
I thought the testing phase lasted so long because of the on-street sections - the Ontario line will be fully separated which should speed up testing in theory, less variables
 
I thought the testing phase lasted so long because of the on-street sections - the Ontario line will be fully separated which should speed up testing in theory, less variables
I doubt it, given the on-street section was completed years before. 5 years of testing?
 
With the Ontario Line 3 scheduled now for 2030, guessing that arrival time for the rolling stock has a less pressure for the delivery date. Still need time for testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing... and maybe more testing.
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They should be visible working now on the Maintenance and Storage Facility now.
 
With the Ontario Line 3 scheduled now for 2030
Is it really? I thought 2031 was the target date, with the more realistic best-case scenario being around 2033.

A few years behind per rumours. Think mid, not early 2030s.
I actually hope the SSE & YNSE open around 2035 or later too, to avoid having to divert T1 replacement trains for service expansion, thus delaying their retirement even more.
 
Re. target date, it was 2030 until last year when Metrolinx and the Ontario government "officially" rescinded it and said there is now no official target date.

Re. the 5 years of testing on line 5, both are Metrolinx projects, and we have no reason to think they won't do 5 years of testing again on OL.

Re. the construction problems at Eglinton Station and whether there was a crack in the foundation, remember that everything we know about construction problems and other delays in building line 5 (such as having to modify the vehicles) are based on leaked information. Officially, no details were ever released, and it's all information we were never supposed to know. So asking for evidence is a bit disingenuous, unless you're saying we shouldn't speculate or rely on unofficial sources when government suppresses information.

Back to a target date, in a previous post I said I wouldn't be surprised if OL opens as late as 2040, and someone immediately took offence and demanded I provide "proof" of this "claim". Well it was never a claim. What I meant was, estimated target dates are almost never met, and therefore are unrealistic (or garbage, to be more blunt), and considering the size of the project, I think 2035 for physical completion of the line is reasonable, rather than taking the most idealistic minimal time with no wiggle room for problems that may crop up, and calling that a target date. But that does no include the testing phase. Everyone seems to think that physical completion of construction equals opening date. Testing has taken 5 years in the past, and it could take 5 years again this time. So I stand by 2040 as a MAXIMUM time to opening, and I'm not saying it to be demeaning, just keeping it real.
 
There was never any evidence.

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Re. the construction problems at Eglinton Station and whether there was a crack in the foundation, remember that everything we know about construction problems and other delays in building line 5 (such as having to modify the vehicles) are based on leaked information. Officially, no details were ever released, and it's all information we were never supposed to know. So asking for evidence is a bit disingenuous, unless you're saying we shouldn't speculate or rely on unofficial sources when government suppresses information.

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I have no doubt that it's way behind schedule, but it FEELS like it's moving along on pace, because we can see so much being created.

This morning, for instance I drove up Don Mills and could see the giant piers have reached the top of the valley all the way up from the valley floor.

We can see all the station construction and tunnelling and the white arch bridge etc.

Eglinton LRT by comparison became so maddening because for year it was just 'testing' the whole system was complete and it was just testing, testing and more testing. And fixing the crack in the foundation slab at Eglinton Station.
Because testing hasn't started yet...
 
The TBM finally moved forward!




It hadn't moved after 4 or earlier because I checked back around 8 and it was in the same position. Maybe it was just a test for now, but since cutterhead and front end of the first tbm shield were inside the brown ring around the entry area, I think it's safe to say they have tunneled a very short distance. I'll check again tomorrow and report back.
I finally have pic of 2 tunnel rings installed from Friday. But I don't know how to post it without it being reposted on Reddit and other popular platfroms and end up doxxing myself.
I'm all ears for suggestion.
 
I thought the testing phase lasted so long because of the on-street sections - the Ontario line will be fully separated which should speed up testing in theory, less variables
No, the testing lasted so long because testing found all sorts of issues with the signalling system that needed to get resolved before moving on.

This kind of thing is precisely applicable to the Ontario Line.

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No, the testing lasted so long because testing found all sorts of issues with the signalling system that needed to get resolved before moving on.

This kind of thing is precisely applicable to the Ontario Line.

Dan
Billion dollar question is if Metrolinx has learned something from Eglinton. Judging how gingerly they dig around Pape station I would say maybe?
 
A few years behind per rumours. Think mid, not early 2030s.

I assume you're saying this in jest since there was never any evidence lol
Re. target date, it was 2030 until last year when Metrolinx and the Ontario government "officially" rescinded it and said there is now no official target date.
The date announced in 2022 was 2031, not 2030:

 

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I finally have pic of 2 tunnel rings installed from Friday. But I don't know how to post it without it being reposted on Reddit and other popular platfroms and end up doxxing myself.
I'm all ears for suggestion.
probably dm's would be best.
 

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