drum118 said:
I have no idea if it had to do with the LRT work or something else. This area saw no BOT work in the first place.

Some blame for delays and rework falls on Arcadis shoulders as they only got drawing up to 80% so work could start and when they hit 100%, various rework had to be done for various location. Since the designer and the detailing are out of London UK, it could be up to 48 hours to get questions answer due to the time different depending on the question.

Then there ML who has habit of rejecting things if they are off by a mm or two as well dealing with the demands of Alstom to make sure tracks meet their requirements since their LRV's don't meet NA standards and only look at Ottawa LRV's issues since they are the same car for Finch, Hurontario and Hamilton Line.

The City of Mississauga has play a part in delays by not approving permits in a timely fashion even with the fast process in place saying the applications were fill out wrong or lack info with crews standing around doing nothing while waiting for that permit.

The main partner is at fault due to lack of funds to pay for work that has a ripple effect on all other partners as well their subtrades.

Right now, Hydro and the telecommunications companies are holding up work south of the QEW with hydro also delaying work north of the QEW.

MTO has delay some work by weeks and months as they required extra work and other things first before allowing work to happen at the QEW and the 403. The QEW push box work was to happen Thanksgiving weekend that was plan two years in advance only to take place 3 weeks later.

Finger point to one company needs to be pointed to a number of parties. End of the day, the line will open years late like all ML LRT lines and we have to live with it.

Right now, I have no idea what is happening at Topflight and the tracks leading to the OMSF.

I had an unplan look at Maryland Purple Line in June that started in 2017 for an 18 mile line and is to open in 2027 now after the P3 company walked away from the project for various reason and sue the state over it. The project was delay another two years to hire another company on top of all the legal battles that saw stop orders issues and then appeal by various groups trying to cancel the project as well being over budget. The photos I shot of the line over three days can be found in my Maryland Album and I like the CAF LRV that is 142 feet long. They are getting 28 of them.
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It truly is a spectacle to behold. I should have some time off this weekend so I'll look at checking out the OMSF / City Centre to see how far they've progressed. Last time I was in the area, some of my photos of track going to the OMSF were blurry so I didn't share those. However, I did notice a vacuum truck that was attempting to pull something up at the time, along with a coil of either black wire or tubing of some sort.
 
At least 4 LRV's have been delivered to the OMSF
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Aug 03

I decided to shoot Topflight and Brampton in place of doing something else today as well do some shopping in Brampton..

When I saw the OMSF trackwork I said to myself what in the hell is happening now. There isn’t a single area of topcoat concrete for the tracks and the area between the tracks except for the driveway from where it starts to the curb to the north. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same for the OMSF line. A big pile of broken concrete waiting to be removed from the site. A small section of the inbound track in place attached to the new anchor base and wrapped to be encased in concrete when every that takes place. This is getting worse as time goes on.

I was expecting to see a near completed intersection for Topflight and blown away that is far from competition by a few months. The diamond that was in position at the beginning of July has been replaced by another one partially competed. Only one of the other two that were on site and moved to a new location and no clue where the other one is. The in/out curved tracks are in place and attached to the new anchor base as well wrapped to be encase in concrete.

More northbound curb poured up the transit driveway with a section north of the driveway being prepared for a curb that will connect to the existing ramp to the 407.

Both ends of the Hwy 407 bridge are backfilled with the road area being prepared for concrete and expansion joints. The base of the guideway has been poured with rebar barriers for it that has to be form and pour. The guideway barriers are higher than the road barriers, including the northbound one next to the guideway that was first built.

Formed curb at the westbound off ramp waiting poring.

About 200 feet north of the off ramp, all the southbound curb has been poured including paving the lane up to Ray Lawson but cannot be opened until 3 light posts are relocated. They are 2-8 feet in the lane that will be come the on ramp to the 407. Otherwise, the centre area is almost ready for the guideway work.

The Ray Lawson southbound bus stop is back on the south side of it as stormwater and waterline are being installed. The section is between Ray Lawson and the traffic lights to the plaza is seeing this work. From the plaza traffic lights to Sir Lou, stacks in place for pouring the southbound curb except for the Police driveway.

The north-east corner for the Ray Lason intersection is paved including the northbound lane to Lancaster except where a water connection hole is to connect the fire hydrant and it been that way for months.

The substation is partly built next to the TD tower and waiting for forming for the base.

The north side of Sir Lou to just south of the fire station is stake for curb pouring with a few light posts to be relocated out of the new. Lot of work from north of the fire station driveway to Steeles.

The area for the northbound lanes north of Lancaster to Steeles partly dug up as a fair number of utilities need to be moved.

Forming underway at Derry Station for the ramp from the station to Derry.

Forming of the north ramp for Hwy 403 bridge is fully in place for the first section finally and no idea if has been poured. Forming for the 3rd taking place and they have poured the base for it and leaving a gap between the 1st and 3rd section. Looks like barrier wall work is taking place on the 403 bridge.

Seeing the whole corridor the past 2 weeks, work is taking place on a small scale with the big push to happen in 2026 unless something changes for this year as there are only 4 months left for this year.

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drum118 said:
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If this photo is the one right beside the GO stops, I did see a crew out there on the day I made and uploaded my posts. They were doing some sort of vacuuming for utilities. No idea what it was about but I'm surprised. Looking closely at it now, there's no way this project is ever going to get back on track.
 
JJTheJetPln said:
If this photo is the one right beside the GO stops, I did see a crew out there on the day I made and uploaded my posts. They were doing some sort of vacuuming for utilities. No idea what it was about but I'm surprised. Looking closely at it now, there's no way this project is ever going to get back on track.
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If you get the chance, shoot the guideway from the 407 station to the OMSF to see what it looks like.

Vacuum trucks have been doing work at various spots this year for various things,

As for ripping up the guideway concrete as well Topflight is not a good sign for trackwork on Hurontario guideway that has tracks in them. As to why, no idea but could be the ties themselves that were built in a jig that was off a few mm to through the trach gauge out of whack to poor placement before encase in concrete. If they start doing ripping up of trackwork in place, better start looking at 2028-2030 timeframe for opening the line.

I am seeing late 2027 to mid 2028 now for opening day subject to a few things. The only way to get this back on track is doing it 7/24 with 3 different construction companies and 2 track installing contractors at great cost. Then you next a contract awarded for the loop.

There is still time to move the Steeles station if ML get off the pot and issue the change order and funds to do it.

The northbound lanes from the 407 to Lancaster should be open in September or October

I am looking forward to hear what ML may say before council in the fall and expecting to hear no timetable for everything.

Your photo from July 21 show a different story for the diamond I shot today and no change since then.
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JJTheJetPln said:
If this photo is the one right beside the GO stops, I did see a crew out there on the day I made and uploaded my posts. They were doing some sort of vacuuming for utilities. No idea what it was about but I'm surprised. Looking closely at it now, there's no way this project is ever going to get back on track.
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That photo is the OMSF guideway by the 407 terminal
 
drum118 said:
If you get the chance, shoot the guideway from the 407 station to the OMSF to see what it looks like.
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I did have this on my list of things to do. I was planning on doing it today, unfortunately for me, my time was consumed by people coming to install a new front door for my house today.

drum118 said:
As for ripping up the guideway concrete as well Topflight is not a good sign for trackwork on Hurontario guideway that has tracks in them. As to why, no idea but could be the ties themselves that were built in a jig that was off a few mm to through the trach gauge out of whack to poor placement before encase in concrete. If they start doing ripping up of trackwork in place, better start looking at 2028-2030 timeframe for opening the line.
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Whatever they did at the intersection, it is a pretty sad state of affairs considering they've barely touched the work. I have to wonder if they're waiting on backorders, and now with the tariffs in place on steel and copper, how much more over budget they'll end up going with their credit utilities not looking too good for the future from current lenders.

drum118 said:
I am seeing late 2027 to mid 2028 now for opening day subject to a few things. The only way to get this back on track is doing it 7/24 with 3 different construction companies and 2 track installing contractors at great cost. Then you next a contract awarded for the loop.
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I had mentioned earlier that I don't see a 2026/2027 date for any of this work unless work were being done 24/7, but I worry about the cost that the consortium is going to incur now that they have to replace so much.

drum118 said:
There is still time to move the Steeles station if ML get off the pot and issue the change order and funds to do it.
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I had mentioned reasons why I believe ML should move the tracks from SB to NB of Steeles, but the gist of it was that there would be significant spillover on the SB lanes from people waiting to board the LRT. Once winter hits, we'll see significantly more of that if there is no proper ROW for pedestrians to be waiting in as spillover from the LRT platform happens. Moving it to the NB side of Hurontario/Steeles solves this issue as most people will be using the terminal platforms to wait for the LRT.

drum118 said:
The northbound lanes from the 407 to Lancaster should be open in September or October
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Here's to hoping. I know it won't mean much in way of getting more work done, but I have to hope that they can start SOMETHING at least.
 
Aug 15
I had to do some shopping at Sq One today and decided to take a walk to the 403 area to have a look since it has been a few months since I last saw it as well as have a look at the Rathburn ramp.

Walking north on Hurontario you can see the poured guideway base with the same type of rebar for rail support as the 407-bridge guideway.

The west sidewalk is close at Sq One Dr as well as the ramp from Rathburn.

They have finally opened the northbound lanes for the 403-bridge and north of it in the past 2 weeks.

Sump pump was pouring concrete for the OS support pole base at the wye area with a number already in place with more to be done. The north end of the elevated guideway is still not form

The form work has been stripped from the 403-bridge with forming of the west centre retaining wall underway. Three of the insides retaining walls have been striped with the north-east still form and no idea if concrete been poured for it.

I see why the west sidewalk is close as it is fully closed south of Kingsbridge with southbound traffic shifted to the northbound lanes as they have set up the area to build the guideway from Kingsbridge to where it will leave Hurontario. Based on where the concrete barriers are set up, the guideway will exit south of the 403-off ramps and south of the foam blocks. If this is set up correctly, there will be a slight S curve to get to the ramp unless the foam blocks are not to be used now and have change the ramp location.

This means that the LRV’s will exit/enter centre guideway on Hurontario while traffic is exiting the 403-off ramp and southbound traffic is stopping for the red light.

As far as I can see, all the elevated guideway retaining walls have been poured except at various piers where the expansion joints still must be installed,

Haft of the retaining walls for the Rathburn ramp is poured with anchor plates on top for the handrail and doesn’t look if work is taking place for the missing sections at this time.

A few shots and no idea when the rest will be up online
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JJTheJetPln said:
Do we know which 8 stops they're referring to? I know Derry is one, but what are the others? It would be nice if "complete" platforms had signage up like Derry does, but it seems like they're only using concrete being poured and rail being installed as "complete" opposed to the shelter, wayfinding map, and whatever else each stop needs.
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Derry is 98% completed with Courtneypark, Britannia, Matheson, Bristol, Eglinton having post for the shelter mostly in place and Courtneypark having it's stop name up for it. That is seven stations. Burnhamthorpe and Central Pkwy are built with some more work to be done on them and there are the 9 stops, not the 8 as noted. Queensway has the base in for that stop and John St is waiting for the base to be form. All of those 9 platforms where to have shelters in place this year by now and another miss schedule project for this year.

Other than Derry, none of the other platforms are seeing ramps built for them at this time.
 
Aug 17
I forgot the Robert Speck platform and it becomes the 10th platform. It has no post for the shelters.

After posting my previous posting got me thinking about the platforms that I decided to have look at a few of them as well take a trip to Topflight. With rain to happened today, I cancel my photo trip to Toronto, but when I looked out after my posting, it said no rain to have a looked at the corridor. Good thing as I came upon some new things and have to check some past shots for various things to see if it s new or forgot about them since been a long time since I looked at those areas.

One thing that been odd to me is how far some stations are set back from the intersection. A few maybe to deal with the need for more space for riders getting off the LRV for a heavy use stop while others will see far less.

No change in formwork for the Derry station ramp as it is for a retaining wall on both side of the ramp that may need more rebar before concrete is pour for it. It been almost 20 months when the crew installing the flashing for the station left the site with flashing and painting to be done on the east side. Don't know if it testing or not, but the platform edge with the yellow strip being installed at the south end using about a 2' x 4' x 1' slab block with anchor to connect to the current edge on both side of the platform. Some slab blocks at the north end with no yellow strip on them.

The trackwork before and after the crossover as well it has me scratch my head if it is new or something old as it been sometime I looked at it. Hard to say at this time if sections of rail been cut out or not installed and will have to do some digging of photos to see what I shot the last time i saw it. A fair number of section of the road has been repaved as well along the edge of the guideway where new manhole covers have been installed in a number of locations. A number of locations of the base of the guideway between the track base and the road edge has been dug up.

Topflight will not be done this month and most likely not September as the main diamond is no longer in place and no idea if it is the fully completed on sitting on the east side of the road or the one on the southbound track. All three diamonds are on site now. Some work has started to install some rail clips and nothing to write home about.

Lot more rail clip base has been installed for the OMSF guideway for the outbound track. What I could see, there is not one inch of topcoat for both tracks going east to the OMSF with the base of the outbound track being dug up. With all the removal of all concrete for encased tracks as well the anchor base, are we going to see the same thing on Hurontario where concrete has been poured for the tracks as well the encase once?? If so, we are looking at an 2029 opening date now or 2030.

Matheson station northbound track has a section missing concrete and not sure if been cut out or not poured as the southbound is fully poured. Need to check my photos to make sure. There is no left turn for northbound traffic at the intersection as new manhole and concrete boxes are being in stalled on the southside of the intersection with some on the north side already done.

Couldn't get either of the 2 rear seats to try to get some videos of the corridor and it became to hard to shot from where i was sitting as well having the bus driver finding every pothole for the express bus as well driving like a Sunday driver, gave up trying to do them.

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ShonTron said:
I love it when it’s bad news, everyone reverts to calling it the Hurontario Line
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It is the Hurontario Line to me and others as well Line 10 in place of the name for Hazel Line. Talking to folk along the corridor they refer the line as the LRT/Streetcar line in most cases. Like most reporters they are asking the wrong questions as it should be why, what , who, is there a plan in place to deal with the problems and when will those problems be fix??

The earliest I see this line in service is late 2027 to 2030 depending on a number of things, You got 6 months of work to put a wye in for Burnhamthorpe, Topflight will not be completed until September or October.

The main question is why was all the encased tracks for the OMSF guideway built in 2024 completely torn up as well Topflight and will this happen to all the trackwork on Hurontario St that is encased in concrete or sitting on a concrete base?? If Hurontario is to see the same work, expect to add an extra 2-3 years to the completion dated

Plans for 2025 was to finish all the trackwork from Topflight to Eglinton as well string the OS system starting in April so that area be ready to start testing the new fleet when Topflight work was completed in July or August. There we are 2.3rd through August and nothing has taken place for any of the Hurontario work. King St intersection was to see tracks place across the intersection in May follow by Dundas and that hasn't happen due to work on Dundas for duct banks and other work with late September or October timeframe now. The BIA are planning for an event on Dundas in September like last year and are very concerned if the work will be done before the event is to happen including the ward councilor. Hydro was to start removing poles south of the QEW and hasn't happen so the guideway can be built. Was told in 2024 by an hydro inspector that hydro work was to start in 2026 and be completed fully for the corridor by the end of 2027

With all the delays and longer completion time, time to move Steeles Station to the north side where is was to be in the first place and ML getting off the pot to allow it to happen.

With ML going before Mississauga Council this fall, you will hear no timeframe or any date when things will happen or be completed for the line and the loop. The line will see service once it is ready and all testing has taken place will be ML comment for date and timeframe.
 
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