hw621
Senior Member
Fingers crossed that Eglinton gets properly operating signal priority - frankly that will be the only distinction.
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
I personally call Spadina, Waterfront, and St. Clair "streetcars with dedicated RoWs" - it is the short stop spacing and lack of traffic priority that makes me resist calling them true LRTs. These factors really put Line 5 and Line 6 on another level.
micheal_can
Senior Member
And so, if they don't have signal priority, it is just a streetcar line with a different gauge track and cars?
hw621
Senior Member
Technically I would think so...
Allandale25
Senior Member
How do we know Eglinton won't have some form of signal priority? Has this been confirmed somewhere?
micheal_can
Senior Member
How do we know it will?
Seriously, there has been no real thing to point to it that I have seen.
jordanmkasla2009
Active Member
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ Thanks Jordan!
hw621
Senior Member
I know they promoted it, but I will believe it when I see it.
rbt
Senior Member
I assume your R in LRT is Rapid rather than Rail?
That's a fair interpretation, particularly considering the sister BRT acronym, but doesn't match the lines covered by the much much older R as Rail definition which covers damn near everything a Canadian Light Rail Vehicle (CLRV) might be able to run on.
IMO, we ought to start clarifying our "R"s when using LRT on this forum to prevent a ton of unnecessary "it-is"/"it-isn't" back and forth as we're thinking of 2 different things for the same acronym.
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Yes the Greater Toronto area is in kinda a weird bind for nomenclature for transit. The TTC streetcar network is for sure a form of "light rail transit", but when compared to the Crosstown (huge tunnel segment with further spaced stations, signal priority, level-boarding, and multi-car trains), it is hard to justify comparing it to even RoW streetcar lines.
Hamilton did a decent video comparing LRT to streetcar. I like your idea of using Light Rapid Transit as a differentiator.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Need to select and go with an antonym for "Rapid", in place of the "R" in the abbreviation, LRT.
Light ...
- accelerated
- breakneck
- brisk
- expeditious
- fast
- hasty
- speedy
- swift
- active
- express
- fleet
- flying
- precipitate
- prompt
- ready
- screaming
- agile
- double time
- expeditive
- fleet of foot
- hurried
- in nothing flat
- light-footed
- like a house on fire
- lively
- mercurial
- nimble
- on the double
- quick as a wink
- quickened
- really rolling
- spry
- winged
Leo_Chan
Senior Member
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Amare
Senior Member
Despite what it says on the Crosstown website, transit priority will be completely in the discretion of Toronto Transportation Services (ie: they have the final call).
Judging from what we've seen from them in the past 20 years, they wont implement it and they'll find a way to screw 200 passengers in a LRV in favor of single occupancy vehicles. Why do I say this? Just look at the Spadina & St.Clair ROW's for further evidence.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Recent evidence (King St.) shows that they are becoming a bit more open to it. I find King Street's transit priority quite effective.
It's not going to be 100% priority where an LRV absolutely never sees a red light - but they likely will never have to wait too long for one either.