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ehlow
Senior Member
Of course it will. There aren't that many stops, it's about the same as the Bloor subway. There shouldn't be any problem fitting them in.
If Eglinton in Scarborough is on the map then why isn't Spadina and Queens Quay?
jeffreym
Active Member
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
Can Spadina and St. Clair be considered rapid transit?
I feel like if it was on the official TTC map then more people would use it to get to their destinations.
I feel like if it was on the official TTC map then more people would use it to get to their destinations.
nfitz
Superstar
How can 15 km/hr with stops every few hundred meters be considered rapid transit.
Another give away are the route numbers. Line 1, Line 2, Line 3, Line 4, Line 5, Line 6, and Line 7 are on the map. The 510 Spadina isn't on the map.
It's on the streetcar map:
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ehlow
Senior Member
Well firstly, re: Eglinton, you'd have to show the underground section like you would any other subway, right? It's 10km of underground tunnel running frequent 60-90m trains, clearly, that's rapid transit. It behaves like any other subway line.
The surface section you'd have to show as well, otherwise people won't know that the line continues. If you only show the underground part, that gives the false impression that the line ends.
Therefore the only real debate is whether you use a thinner line line for the surface section. I don't really see the benefit of this, considering that there aren't that many stops. However, I don't really have a major problem with it becoming a thinner line east of Laird, it would still be useful.
The more difficult question is the Finch & Sheppard LRTs (when they're built). They have more stops, and are more geographically skewed towards the east or west, so it would be more difficult to fit them on the map. The map posted above only shows 4-5 stops for the Finch line.
Now, why not Spadina & St Clair & QQW?
- Speed to slow
- Behaves like a bus line (you have to request stops)
- Too many stops to fit on map
I have no problem adding these as thin red lines like the airport bus, but then you start saying "why not other frequent bus lines", and you don't want an extremely complicated map.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
We have this discussion every 120 days.
Dan416
Senior Member
That is true
CityPlaceN1
Senior Member
Indeed it is.
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Duck
Guest
Are there any concept pictures of what the inside of the stations at platform level are going to look like? Kind of like the renderings that have been floating around for the Subway extension.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Here are the renderings for Keele Station:
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/keele-crosstown-station
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/keele-crosstown-station
robmausser
Senior Member
Although I wouldnt put the Spadina/St.Clair lines on the subway map, I would have somehow differentiated them from mixed-traffic lines on the streetcar map.
Putting them in a darker red and the mixed-traffic areas in a ligher red would have been a nice touch on the map, so that people could see where the lines are ROW or not.
ROW is better still than mixed-traffic so for a newbie its nice to know if I can expect the streetcar to be slow, or mind numbingly slow.
Putting them in a darker red and the mixed-traffic areas in a ligher red would have been a nice touch on the map, so that people could see where the lines are ROW or not.
ROW is better still than mixed-traffic so for a newbie its nice to know if I can expect the streetcar to be slow, or mind numbingly slow.
Maybe a good solution would be to include them in the same line weight and colour as the Airport Rocket on the new subway map that's been put up in certain locations. Don't name any stops or anything, just include dedicated ROW streetcar routes on there, as kind of a supplemental thing.
nfitz
Superstar
Some of the non-dedicated lines are faster than the dedicated lines.
Where do you stop?
Keep it simple. Don't add them. Stick to Line 1 through 4, and add Line 5 to 7 if and when they open. There's obvious reasons for adding the airport express bus. Anything else is unnecessary clutter.