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Some of us now speculate that when Line 5 opens, it will offer a limited service, just like Line 6, for at least a few months at the beginning, hopefully not forever. Something like 6 to 10 minute frequency, on and off peak. If that is the case, does it make sense to change all the bus routes feeding to it on Day One?
 
Some of us now speculate that when Line 5 opens, it will offer a limited service, just like Line 6, for at least a few months at the beginning, hopefully not forever. Something like 6 to 10 minute frequency, on and off peak. If that is the case, does it make sense to change all the bus routes feeding to it on Day One?
I presume you mean, if service is limited, it will cause many people to take the bus instead, so buses should use stops outside the station, at present-day transfer points. I suspect that will happen anyway, as long as parallel bus routes exist. Buses going into a station will also stop outside the station on Eglinton, so everybody gets service.
 
I presume you mean, if service is limited, it will cause many people to take the bus instead, so buses should use stops outside the station, at present-day transfer points. I suspect that will happen anyway, as long as parallel bus routes exist. Buses going into a station will also stop outside the station on Eglinton, so everybody gets service.
I think service being limited from reduced frequency along with all bus routes being adjusted to final configuration assuming full capacity may lead to overcrowding. Sort of like funnelling everything into a less than adequate sized pipe, causing water to build up. In this case it would be passengers transferring from buses on the platforms trying to enter full trains. The existing parallel bus service will have the frequencies reduced or removed entirely, so there is no reasonable alternative.

However, without actually seeing projections and simulations I don't feel it is guaranteed to happen.
 
I think service being limited from reduced frequency along with all bus routes being adjusted to final configuration assuming full capacity may lead to overcrowding. Sort of like funnelling everything into a less than adequate sized pipe, causing water to build up. In this case it would be passengers transferring from buses on the platforms trying to enter full trains. The existing parallel bus service will have the frequencies reduced or removed entirely, so there is no reasonable alternative.

However, without actually seeing projections and simulations I don't feel it is guaranteed to happen.
Current bus service on Eglinton is so bad, whatever happens next can't be worse. (Crosses fingers.🫰)
Also, I used to agree that bus service along Eglinton would likely be removed in future, but everyone on here was telling me I was wrong!
 
One of the only things that went right around the launch of the Confederation Line is that they kept the parallel bus services running for a few weeks after the line opened. This meant that, if things really went sideways, they could shut the line down without having to scramble a bunch of shuttle buses. While the line's launch was still pretty calamitous, this helped blunt the worst of the impacts. (Riders experienced outages as disruptions instead of as personal disasters, newspapers had headlines about "LRT still not ready for prime time" rather than "DAY 4 OF COMMUTE FROM HELL", etc.)

Feels to me like keeping at least a partial bus service running during your initial launch is a sensible approach, especially if you have serious concerns about the line's stability.
 
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One of the only things that went right around the launch of the Confederation Line is that they kept the parallel bus services running for a few weeks after the line opened. This meant that, if things really went sideways, they could shut the line down without having to scramble a bunch of shuttle buses. While the line's launch was still pretty calamitous, this helped blunt the worst of the impacts. (Riders experienced outages as disruptions instead of as dramatic outages, newspapers had headlines about "LRT still not ready for prime time" rather than "DAY 4 OF COMMUTE FROM HELL", etc.)

Feels to me like keeping at least a partial bus service running during your initial launch is a sensible approach, especially if you have serious concerns about the line's stability.
Again, from what I've been told, the LRT service will be replaced by a night bus at night, and probably in late evenings after 10 PM for the first few months. Furthermore, subway lines over the last decade or so have been closed in late evenings on weekends or Mondays, for track and/or signal work, sometimes dragging on for years. I would be shocked if the Eglinton line turned out to have no problems requiring pre-midnight closures over the next few years.
 
Again, from what I've been told, the LRT service will be replaced by a night bus at night, and probably in late evenings after 10 PM for the first few months.
Do you know why it's changed from the plan they've had for years, of running a 34 Eglinton bus from Mount Dennis to Kennedy all day?
 
Per Steve Munro, as of October, the 32 and 34 still factored into the TTC's planning for a post-Crosstown bus network.

 
One of the only things that went right around the launch of the Confederation Line is that they kept the parallel bus services running for a few weeks after the line opened. This meant that, if things really went sideways, they could shut the line down without having to scramble a bunch of shuttle buses. While the line's launch was still pretty calamitous, this helped blunt the worst of the impacts. (Riders experienced outages as disruptions instead of as personal disasters, newspapers had headlines about "LRT still not ready for prime time" rather than "DAY 4 OF COMMUTE FROM HELL", etc.)

Feels to me like keeping at least a partial bus service running during your initial launch is a sensible approach, especially if you have serious concerns about the line's stability.
From Steve Munro, TTC 2026 Budget Preview. They're doing something similar by keeping the buses and operators as a "contingency".
Bus service hours released by Lines 5 and 6 opening. In the medium term, these buses and operators will be kept in reserve as a “contingency” in case of teething problems with the new lines. Later in the year, these hours will become available for improved service.
 
Yes, but that's the plan that's been around for years - with the plan for the 32 to run from Mount Dennis station to Renforth station (at least until the subway extension opens next decade). And even though we've discussed this @A 6264 has been telling us about their scoop that there won't be 34 service after all - so I'd like to hear about this sudden change they are leaking to us.
long term plan still includes the 34 afaik as an infrequent accessibility link like the 97 Yonge bus but in the short-term as a parallel bus service that they can quickly convert to Line 5 Shuttles when needed and for 10PM - 2AM for the first few months of operation per the Ottawa LRT recommendations. Basically one of the criticisms from the report was that OC Transpo was too quick to completely remove bus service hours after the launch of the Confederation Line and it resulted in the inability to respond in a timely manner to disruptions in LRT service that resulted from teething issues. The TTC has not planned to completely remove bus service hours as a result of the launch of Line 5 & 6 but rather redeploy those service hours to improve bus service in other parts of the city.
 
Also, I used to agree that bus service along Eglinton would likely be removed in future, but everyone on here was telling me I was wrong!
The bus service will remain on Eglinton once the Crosstown opens, but will be quite a bit different than what runs today.

The 34 will operate from end-to-end on Eglinton (Mount Dennis to Kennedy), and at low (15 minute) frequencies. Think of it as an equivalent of the 97 and the Yonge subway.

The 32 will be cut back to only run west from Mount Dennis.

Most routes that currently run on the central part of Eglinton for any great distance (51, 54, 56) will be greatly changed and will either no longer run on Eglinton at all, or only for a couple of blocks.

Overnight service will still be provided by buses.

Dan
 
The bus service will remain on Eglinton once the Crosstown opens, but will be quite a bit different than what runs today.

The 34 will operate from end-to-end on Eglinton (Mount Dennis to Kennedy), and at low (15 minute) frequencies. Think of it as an equivalent of the 97 and the Yonge subway.

The 32 will be cut back to only run west from Mount Dennis.

Most routes that currently run on the central part of Eglinton for any great distance (51, 54, 56) will be greatly changed and will either no longer run on Eglinton at all, or only for a couple of blocks.

Overnight service will still be provided by buses.

Dan
I was under the impression the new 34 would run every 30 mins, not sure where i heard that
 

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