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smallspy
Senior Member
It won't necessarily be slower.
One of the changes happening is that there will be a full Leslie route from Danforth to Sheppard via Donlands and Laird, and there will also be a short-turn route that turns back at Lawrence.
Over the combined section headways may very well be shorter than they are today. They certainly won't be worse than currently exists on the 56.
Dan
Northern Light
Superstar
I believe the slower reference was specific to @PL1 's commute which involves transferring to the Bayview bus at some point, a transfer not directly served by the new route alignment.
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I don't use the 56 that often, but its one of those routes whose headway I find irksome, typically in the 20 minute range off-peak, if they get that down to 15m or less at the south end, that would be grand.
Then they need to cut some superflous stops and make more effort to get shelters at most of the remaining stops. Its one of the least sheltered routes in the system. (at least from Laird southward)
smallspy
Senior Member
I get that.
But if the bus runs more frequently, and thus they don't have to stand at a stop for as long, that also affects one's trip time, too.
Dan
PL1
Senior Member
The TTC has removed at least two stops recently on the 56 route (beginning of October) -- Glebeholme and DonlandsNB, and Vanderhoof and Laird both directions.
Pre-pandemic it was every 12 minutes, now every 15 with a couple of extra runs for high schoolers.
Anyway, I was indeed lamenting my personal change in commute, and I think it will largely be better for many commutes. Change is hard sometimes.
UntitledCyclist
Active Member
I've been using the now open Cedarvale station parts to access Line 1 trains of late and have some thoughts, as we wait for Line 5 to open. Tick tock!
- The tunnels to either side of the Allen and across Eglinton to the south are useful, but convoluted in design and feel VERY empty. Lots of room once Line 5 opens, but I wonder if it wasn't a bit of overkill.
- The white walls and light floors are already looking grubby a few weeks in. I don' t know what the cleaning schedule is like but if you go white you better have a plan.
- I saw a water fountain in a little cove behind the lower level Line 5 ticket office counter. Trying to remember when I last saw that in a station... but it's out of service anyway.
- The access through the new tunnels to Line 1 northbound is not bad. The access to/from Line1 Southbound though is horrible. It requires a bunch of u-turns and level changes that make using the original entrance much more sensible from street level at least.
- Given the above, it's odd that both escalators to the Southbound Line 1 platform (i.e. going to the main/original Eg West entrance) have been off for the past few days. This is the ecalator they just spent a year refurbishing and reopened a week or so ago.
- I've been using the south-side entrance to get under Eglinton. There is a fare gate at the bottom of the many stairs, so no free passage, but yesterday all those gates were stuck in the open position. This would allow anyone coming in from that entrance to access Line 1 for free (though an inspection would nail you). It made me wonder if they are experimenting with it as a fare-free way to cross Eglinton, but I doubt it. It's too tortuous to use as an alternative to just crossing at the lights.
I'm curious to see some of other designs, once open, though I guess Cedarvale was one of the bigger projects given the Line 1 connection. It feels both impressive and a bit messy in terms of design and layout. Not that I could do better!
- The tunnels to either side of the Allen and across Eglinton to the south are useful, but convoluted in design and feel VERY empty. Lots of room once Line 5 opens, but I wonder if it wasn't a bit of overkill.
- The white walls and light floors are already looking grubby a few weeks in. I don' t know what the cleaning schedule is like but if you go white you better have a plan.
- I saw a water fountain in a little cove behind the lower level Line 5 ticket office counter. Trying to remember when I last saw that in a station... but it's out of service anyway.
- The access through the new tunnels to Line 1 northbound is not bad. The access to/from Line1 Southbound though is horrible. It requires a bunch of u-turns and level changes that make using the original entrance much more sensible from street level at least.
- Given the above, it's odd that both escalators to the Southbound Line 1 platform (i.e. going to the main/original Eg West entrance) have been off for the past few days. This is the ecalator they just spent a year refurbishing and reopened a week or so ago.
- I've been using the south-side entrance to get under Eglinton. There is a fare gate at the bottom of the many stairs, so no free passage, but yesterday all those gates were stuck in the open position. This would allow anyone coming in from that entrance to access Line 1 for free (though an inspection would nail you). It made me wonder if they are experimenting with it as a fare-free way to cross Eglinton, but I doubt it. It's too tortuous to use as an alternative to just crossing at the lights.
I'm curious to see some of other designs, once open, though I guess Cedarvale was one of the bigger projects given the Line 1 connection. It feels both impressive and a bit messy in terms of design and layout. Not that I could do better!
Allandale25
Superstar
Will this be the big announcement?
generalcanada
Senior Member
that depends on where specifically it is.
it is weird the finch announcement went off without a press conference. though without the mayor and/or ttc i dont see why it would be
Smiffy
Active Member
Found on Subway today 
hw621
Senior Member
They should mark the "slow zones" on that map...
JSF-1
Active Member
Not a complaint but the right side of the map looks so naked without the SRT. Like looking at Kennedy it feels like there should be something there.
stevensontransit
Active Member
Could it be for line 5 crosstown?
crs1026
Superstar
Can't imagine that the Minister would make that announcement without a bunch of others present, but we will see.
- Paul
- Paul
Steve X
Senior Member
To announce the crosstown will open in 2026?
Racer_77
New Member
I've been using the now open Cedarvale station parts to access Line 1 trains of late and have some thoughts, as we wait for Line 5 to open. Tick tock!
- The tunnels to either side of the Allen and across Eglinton to the south are useful, but convoluted in design and feel VERY empty. Lots of room once Line 5 opens, but I wonder if it wasn't a bit of overkill.
- The white walls and light floors are already looking grubby a few weeks in. I don' t know what the cleaning schedule is like but if you go white you better have a plan.
- I saw a water fountain in a little cove behind the lower level Line 5 ticket office counter. Trying to remember when I last saw that in a station... but it's out of service anyway.
- The access through the new tunnels to Line 1 northbound is not bad. The access to/from Line1 Southbound though is horrible. It requires a bunch of u-turns and level changes that make using the original entrance much more sensible from street level at least.
- Given the above, it's odd that both escalators to the Southbound Line 1 platform (i.e. going to the main/original Eg West entrance) have been off for the past few days. This is the ecalator they just spent a year refurbishing and reopened a week or so ago.
- I've been using the south-side entrance to get under Eglinton. There is a fare gate at the bottom of the many stairs, so no free passage, but yesterday all those gates were stuck in the open position. This would allow anyone coming in from that entrance to access Line 1 for free (though an inspection would nail you). It made me wonder if they are experimenting with it as a fare-free way to cross Eglinton, but I doubt it. It's too tortuous to use as an alternative to just crossing at the lights.
I'm curious to see some of other designs, once open, though I guess Cedarvale was one of the bigger projects given the Line 1 connection. It feels both impressive and a bit messy in terms of design and layout. Not that I could do better!
I walked through it a couple days ago and pretty much agree (except that I hadn't visited the old tunnels). I'd also add that some of the signage is definitely confusing.
The elevator at Line 1 southbound level says it's for Line 1 and 5 (same sign as in this Reddit post, different location) Technically right, but it doesn't clarify that it's only needed to access the Line 1 northbound platform. I saw someone enter, only to exit a couple minutes later after they figured it out.
Hopefully Metrolinx will implement their updated wayfinding after the handover, because it's a bit cluttered at the moment: