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T3G said:
Because it's in the suburbs, they don't have destinations out there.

But more specifically in the case of the map, you can see that line 5 is not shown in its full length, either, only in so far as it touches Line 1. It's not supposed to be a full demonstration of the service, only to call out that Line 1 intersects with it.
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For what it’s worth, I think this map is trying to serve too many purposes. Given its location and the info included, it’s trying to function as a line diagram. Line diagrams are intended to do two things: verify the stations ahead/behind from a given platform, and highlight available connections to other lines. If they had kept the stations in between both sides of line 1 off, I think this would’ve been much clearer but by including them, it implies the map is intended to do a lot more than its designed to do, making the info it doesn’t provide much more obvious. I would suggest most people when then get to a platform have some understanding of what station they intend to go to, they’re looking for confirmation that that’s the platform that will take them there.
 
I wonder how many items from the Line 6 service note will make its way over to Line 5:
ShonTron said:
Service note:

Fifteen fully accessible trains will operate during weekday morning and afternoon rush hours, with service every six and a half minutes. At all other times, including weekends, trains will arrive approximately every 10 to 12 minutes.

Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.

Between 10 p.m. and 1 a.m., service will be provided by buses operating every 10 minutes, serving on-street LRT stops along the Finch West corridor. The TTC’s Blue Night bus service will operate after 1 a.m. until the start of train service at 6 a.m. Monday to Saturday, and 8 a.m. on Sundays.

Now Open: Line 6 Finch West

www.ttc.ca www.ttc.ca
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  • 5 1/2 - 6 minutes service during rush hour
  • 10 - 12 minutes service during non-rush hour
  • "Soft opening" conditions (6am - 10pm) until Spring 2026
  • Bus service from 10pm - 1am
I assume/hope Line 5 will operate more frequently than Line 6 (I'm sure the real service times have been mentioned somewhere in this thread before), but I can see the "soft opening" conditions making its way to this line, given how badly the government and MX do not want to repeat the mistakes from the Ottawa LRT.
 
pleaseLRT said:
Yup - if there's "absolutely still a chance" for this to open in 2025, then an announcement about substantial completion and/or full handover to the TTC should be made very soon. Unfortunately, given that MX's board documents (dated for this Thursday) state that Line 5 is still currently in RSD, I am not optimistic about any 2025 opening date
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I'd give less weight to the board documents and more weight to what the CEO and others are saying right now and will say during the board meeting. The board documents are usually a couple of weeks progress off from reality.
 
From https://stevemunro.ca/2025/11/21/line-6-finch-december-7-2025/

Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.
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So we can expect to see a SOFT OPENING of Line 5 as well. Likely from 6 AM to 10 PM for one season. Now will that season end?
 
pleaseLRT said:
I wonder how many items from the Line 6 service note will make its way over to Line 5:

  • 5 1/2 - 6 minutes service during rush hour
  • 10 - 12 minutes service during non-rush hour
  • "Soft opening" conditions (6am - 10pm) until Spring 2026
  • Bus service from 10pm - 1am
I assume/hope Line 5 will operate more frequently than Line 6 (I'm sure the real service times have been mentioned somewhere in this thread before), but I can see the "soft opening" conditions making its way to this line, given how badly the government and MX do not want to repeat the mistakes from the Ottawa LRT.
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Didn't ML want a much better service on Line 5?

Bus service on Line 5 would be much more complicated. Unlike Line 6 where most routes don't feed into the line, Line 5 has Mount Dennis, Keelesdale and Don Valley where buses would dump significant amounts of riders. It would be very frustrating for riders to take multiple buses unless they continue the regular network after10pm. That would cause a lot of confusion too. I guess it would be best to just run a Line 5 shuttle bus if they are doing to do this.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
So we can expect to see a SOFT OPENING of Line 5 as well. Likely from 6 AM to 10 PM for one season. Now will that season end?
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Gosh, this makes Line 6 sound like one of those "limited" routes that does not run full service. (Even if it's just 3 hours less.) Quite an expensive project just for that. Hopefully it's temporary, but in that case it sounds like the TTC aren't ready, despite the 3 year delay in opening. I do hope Line 5 does not open like this.
 
A 6264 said:
Gosh, this makes Line 6 sound like one of those "limited" routes that does not run full service. (Even if it's just 3 hours less.) Quite an expensive project just for that. Hopefully it's temporary, but in that case it sounds like the TTC aren't ready, despite the 3 year delay in opening. I do hope Line 5 does not open like this.
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Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.

If Finch is going to operate under these conditions, it damn well sure seems like Eglinton would. Especially considering the fact Eglinton is the much more problematic line between the two of them.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
There were rumours that the TTC may end cash fares entirely at all subway and LRT stations. Maybe buses & streetcars soon after?

See https://www.blogto.com/city/2024/09/ttc-ban-cash-fares-permanently-toronto/
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They already stopped accepting tokens and tickets on June 1, while PRESTO machines allow you to get PRESTO tickets by cash (or top up your card). Would only make sense to stop cash entirely at subway and LRT stations.

Buses and certain streetcar routes - on the other hand - would be more difficult to do given the lack of PRESTO machines. Even so, it would be great to get data on the buses and streetcars to see how many are still paying by cash given you can use your debit or credit card to pay.
 
TwoWheelPoli said:
Buses and certain streetcar routes - on the other hand - would be more difficult to do given the lack of PRESTO machines. Even so, it would be great to get data on the buses and streetcars to see how many are still paying by cash given you can use your debit or credit card to pay.
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Streetcars on all routes have Presto machines.

I was surprised to notice recently though, when trying to get a youth fare, that you couldn't actually use debit/credit anymore at the machine (even though you could once, at the same machines). And you needed cash. Seems a bit silly.

The solution of getting rid of cash is to put the machines on buses as well. I'm not particularly comfortable with 13-year olds wandering around with cards that will quickly get lost.
 
New maps up at Eglinton Station. I get that they probably don't want to print signs twice with the opening of Line 6. But I take it as a good sign that the main station that connects to Line 5 has this up everywhere. Trying to counteract the metric tons of doom and gloom on this thread.

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youngblood said:
Can't believe we're so close... 40km of track coming in a mere month or two.

Currently 14 min bus ride between the two transfer points. Anybody have a guess how long it will take with line 5?

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As someone who takes this bus between the two transfer points, 14 minutes is very generous. You get bottle necked in so much traffic at Avenue, Allan, and leaving Cedarvale station. Going East is not as bad, but going west is painfully slow. It could easily be 25 minutes plus.

My guess is maybe about 7 minutes or less between Eglinton and Cedarvale. There are 3 stops the train has to make, but they aren't that far apart.
 
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